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Argentina to Bush: Please do not come to our country

by Migeru Fri Nov 4th, 2005 at 06:09:08 AM EST

From the front page ~ whataboutbob

In November 4-5 the Summit of the Americas will take place in Mar del Plata, Argentina. I am translating an astounding letter sent to Bush by an Argentinean Member of Parliament. The letter speaks for itself.

Disclaimer: I have not authenticated this letter. If you want to deconstruct the sources, try this link


LETTER TO BUSH FROM MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT ALICIA CASTRO
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With my highest regards
To the President of the United States of America
Mr. George W. Bush
Washington D. C.

Mister President:
A Member of Parliament of the Argentinean Nation. I am one of the 257 representatives of the Argentinean people in Parliament; the second time I got into the Chamber of Deputies half a million citizens voted for me, but I can guarantee that what I will be expressing to you in this letter represents the majority of the Argentinean people.

President Bush:
We do not want you to come to our country. Maybe for diplomatic reasons, our Chancery will not have made you aware how reviled you are by our people. It is not simply that we disagree with your policies, but that you represent a danger to the democracies of South America. Not long ago, at an OAS Summit where you defended interventionism, you dared to mention the name of José de San Martín in your speech. You must know that this father of our nation fought against imperialism and in favour of the unity of South America. The people of San Martin do not want you, Mr. Bush, because you represent neoimperialism, which like in the 19th century is an attempt to dominate regions by means of financial measures or armes actions. We Aregentineans know full well the consequences of the policies that you promote: our country, being immensely rich, was driven to misery by irresponsible leaders who followed each and every of the recipes of the International Monetary Fund. We know that international credit organizations are not neutral and responf to the policies of the United States.

Bolivar's prophecy is fulfilled: "the United States of America seem destined by providence to sow misery in Latin America". We Argentinians have nothing against the American people, but much against the governmentthat has put the largest political and military might in the planet at the service of bloody ambition, which does not doubt to annihilate lives to appropriate someone else's oil, to make money from arms trade and, moreover, to expand its most sinister industry: the one that reconstructs what you destroy. You represent the decadence of Western values. Your people, which used not to tolerate lies in political practice, has to endure your having lied with a bold fade to the entire world regasrding the existence of nuclear weapons in Iraq, in order to justify invasion.
The Nobel Peace Prize recently awarded to Mohamed ElBaradei, who revealed the existence of these deceptions, is an eloquent display of the importance that the international community attaches to Truth in the construction of Peace. The theory of "pre-emptive war", one of the distasteful novelties in your political discourse, places your government outside any known law and presently threatens concretely Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba, in sum, the whole world. You threaten us, but you do not confound us. You do not fool us with your proclaimed "war on terrorism", while you practice state terrorism. This is borne out by the tortures at the Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo prisons, the distraught mothers of American soldiers taking part in the carnage or women and children in Iraq, and the advances to militarize and control our region. You are a terrorist protecting other terrorists such as Luis Posada Carriles, escaped from a Caracas prison and who, among other crimes, has confessed his authorship of the explosion, in 1976, of a Cuban airliner causing 73 deaths. Spare us your undesirable presence. We do not share anything that can be debated at the Summit of the Americas, to be held the next 4 and 5 November in the city of Mar del Plata. No gobernment supporting your policies could guarantee its own stability. We the peoples of South America have already chosen. We choose Energy sovereignty: we want Petrosur; we need to recover our Food sovereignty, and for that, American companies must stop infecting our seeds with their pesticides and their trademarks; we reject your patents which leave our sick without a cure; we do not want your dangerous "Open Skies". Do not come here to promote the FTAA, we do not want your "free trade" from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, we choose our solidary and fair trade to complement and benefit the peoples of South America. We have already constituted the South America Confederation of Nations: larger and wealthier than the United States, which we shall unify following the ideals of San Martín, Bolivar, of O¹Higgins, of Artigas, of Martí. Your values, Mr. Bush, are not vithin our scale of values nor are your aims compatible with out principles. We have our own South Agenda: we foster a Latin American Monetary Fund, a South Bank, a gread South University; we want to inform ourselves from the south and for the south. Unearth already, the antennas of CNN and your international machinery of lies, spare us your crude conspiracies. Your govennment, which rejected the Kyoto protocol, and your terrible management which drowned your own people in Neo Orleans, represents a concrete threat to the environment and to planet Earth. We South Americans are for the happiness, freedom and life of peoples, we are also for peace. You are on the side of war, of predation and of death. Regarding prcctical matters, responsibly and as a national representative, I consider it evident that nobody could guarantee your safety in Argentina. Not yours, nor that of our citizens. Proof of this is that Argentina has suffered terrible terrorist attacks which remain unpunished and unsolved. Today terrorism travels on public transportation and the vengeful threat that you profess like a dogma, has already cost the lives of worker and users of public transport in Madrid and London, and has made unsafe such disparate places as Roma, Bali, Miami and New York. I ask you in the name of the Argentinean people, that you spare us of these risks; you could make yourself present at the Summit of the Americas through a tele-conference from Washington which, at the same time, would keep you safe from physical expressions of our repudiation of you. Awaiting your response, I greet you with distinguished regards.

Alicia Castro
Member of Parliament of the Argentinean Nation

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Wonderful. Bravo. Thanks for posting this.

Do you think Bush will personally read it? I hope so.

Do not feel safe. The poet remembers.
Czeslaw Milosz

by Chris Kulczycki on Sat Oct 29th, 2005 at 06:26:22 PM EST
If a staffer were to mention the existence of this letter to him he migh bite their head off.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 29th, 2005 at 06:39:06 PM EST
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Gracias hermano!!! How about you post this in DKos, Booman Tribune and MLW?


If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)
by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 05:55:29 PM EST
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I only have an account on DKos. Feel free to crosspost.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 05:57:50 PM EST
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There I go. Thanks!!!

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)
by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 06:09:01 PM EST
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Great, thanks for the translation!!!

Regarding the letter, I do not like the last part at all.

You do not need to be rude or make absurd claims to make your point. It diminishes your arguments. I know the fundies do not behave in this way... but they are fundies.

Other that.. bring it on!!!

 A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Oct 29th, 2005 at 06:46:47 PM EST
You are right: there are bits of the letter that are a bit over the top. As I was translating this I was wondering "what does this woman think she'll accomplish by writing this?".

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 29th, 2005 at 06:50:38 PM EST
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I guess you are talking about "spearing this" ie. the risk of a terrorist attack.

There have been rumors that there have been thousands of body bags taken to Mar del Plata.    Truth is that everybody there is pretty scared of him going there.

Not only because of a terrorist attack, but if something happens to Bush there, they fear reprisals.

As for keeping him safe from phisical repudiation, shit will hit the fan when he gets there.

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)

by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 06:07:58 PM EST
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I did not mean to say the letter was outstanding but astounding.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 29th, 2005 at 07:51:31 PM EST
In general, I am appreciating the increased articles posted here about Argentina and Latin America...and good ones at that. Thanks Migeru...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 12:46:03 PM EST
I didn't write any of this (well, except for the 3-line lead), I just translated it.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 03:18:49 PM EST
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But you found it and deserve all the credit.

Posted it at BT and MLW. I dont think DK is ready for it, so if you want to you can post it there.

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)

by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 07:28:49 PM EST
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I dont think DK is ready for it
I I think this comment deserves some analysis. I tend to agree, and it makes me feel uneasy.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 31st, 2005 at 03:49:13 PM EST
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Migreu:
       You know how many centrists are at DK. Not only that, but I think that their "patriotism" (read Patrioterismo)will be insulted. NOt a big deal. If you want to I can post it in no time.

What I want you to know is abut the great reception that it had in BT. Not only that, but it might turn into some interesting political activity: I contacted Cindy Sheehan (the mother of the dead soldier who is protesting the war, and asked her if she would like me to contact "Las abuelas de Plaza de Mayo" so they let Bush know that even when he travels 8000 miles, she is still going to be present. Right now I am awaiting for Cindy's responce, and if she agrees to it I will call the Grandmothers and talk to them about it.

If you are uneasy about anything, you can contact me at my email or through a post. The only reason I did not post it there is because I dont want to deal with their BS

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)

by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Mon Oct 31st, 2005 at 06:01:58 PM EST
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Well, it would be really amusing to have Hebe de Bonafini greeting Bush by banging on a pot.

I think the letter as written has a number of problems. It contain some over-the-top, easily debunked statements that make it possible to dismiss the whole thing off-hand. On the other hand, it is important—as people pointed on Booman, that Americans realize that even such an emotional letter distinguishes between the American people and their Government. On the other hand, the American people reelected Bush. Democracies usually have the leaders they deserve.

I also feel like I would have to endure more flak for this at DK than I think it's worth.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 31st, 2005 at 06:14:20 PM EST
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I agree with you abut DK. By the way, I dont agree with Hebe de Bonifani. Estela Carlotto is the president of the Abuelas.

I met her in Madisonwhen she came to give a lecture, and then spoke with her three or four times on the phone.

She is really a sweethart, and absolutely accesible.

On the other hand, Hebe goes sometimes over the top, and I dont agree with her politically.

The difference between las Madres and las Abuelas, is that the former only seek justice. What can I say, I love those women.

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)

by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Mon Oct 31st, 2005 at 06:28:52 PM EST
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<pops foot out of mouth>
I am a little out of date on the Abuelas' leadership, obviously.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:54:21 AM EST
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As someone who still has family in South America I can tell you the we have a VAST experience with shamefully manipulated elections. Bush 2000 and Bush 2004 election tricks didn't fool anyone there.
by lawnorder (lawnorder / texasturkey.us) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:15:54 AM EST
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You may be right about that, but I think it is important that Kossacks have access to proofs of the amount of anti-american sentiment Bush is spreading around the world.

I'm used to getting flak over there, so do you mind if I post a link to this on DK open thread ?

by lawnorder (lawnorder / texasturkey.us) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:20:21 AM EST
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By all means, after the diary goes up anyone can quote or post a link to it or anywhere else without permission anyway.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:55:36 AM EST
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If you guys agree, I'd be happy to post it tomorrow. My name should help it get some visibility, and I can handle the heat, I think.

Tell me what you think (not that there is any urgent deadline).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:02:19 PM EST
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Want some photos to go with it?

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)
by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:52:14 PM EST
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Actually, The summit takes place this comming weekend so there is some sort of deadline.

Do as you please. If you'd like to just link to this diary and comments excerpts of the letter you can do that as well. Might be worth linking to thebooman diary as well for the comments. And also link to the Booman photo diary that Cruz del Sur refers to.

Really, as far as I'm concerned all my contributions to ET are copyleft. Does ER have an explicit or implicit licensing policy?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 05:43:11 PM EST
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Every one loved your diary at Boomans Tribune. Great job!!!!!

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)
by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Mon Oct 31st, 2005 at 03:45:54 PM EST
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Just found somew poles at El Clarin newspaper.

The question was:do you sympathize with:

Bush:  8.4% (387)
Chavez:50.1% (2292)
None:  41.5%  (1903)

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)

by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 07:26:32 PM EST
wrote poles, should say polls :-)

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)
by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Sun Oct 30th, 2005 at 07:27:19 PM EST
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A member of the house, she has had other anti-US / Anti - Bush actions such as requesting that Argentina toughens it's border laws to Americans as much as US, similarly to what Brazil has done (Brazil requires ID, fingerprints, visa and proof of employment from American tourists, as "reciprocity", i.e. payback for what Brazilians have to endure to visit US)

http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/reconquista-popular/2004w02/msg00097.htm

by lawnorder (lawnorder / texasturkey.us) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:03:39 AM EST
Sorry, I meant member of the Argentina House Assembly, not a "member of the house"...

Here is another confirmation that such a House member exists, is a very active liberal/ left leaning  politician, and loves to write open letters to government officials

http://www.argenpress.info/nota.asp?num=018895

(translated by Google in CAPS with my corrections in lowercase)

Since 1998 I HAVE COME DENOUNCING THE CORRUPTION, INSECURITY And LACK OF CONTROL IN the port/ aviation SYSTEM

Open Letter TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE NATION ARGENTINA NESTOR KIRCHNER by NATIONAL DEPUTY ALICIA I CASTRo

by lawnorder (lawnorder / texasturkey.us) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:11:58 AM EST
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That is the reciprocity principle. The US toughens their immigration or their policies entering the country, they reciprocate. That is to be expected.

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)
by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 02:56:59 PM EST
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Reciprocity? The US does not recognnize or accept reciprocity.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 05:36:33 PM EST
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dont mean we don't.

If you want me to go back to the place I was born , tell your corporations to leave my country (Leon Gieco)
by cruz del sur (chenicodk@sbcglobal.net) on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 07:29:48 PM EST
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Bush Heading into Den of Leftists
At Latin Summit, He Faces Resurgent Bloc

By Colin McMahon - Chicago Tribune

BUENOS AIRES Oct. 31 -- For a guy with the headaches President Bush faces, quiet time away and a pleasant visit with friends might be just the ticket. Too bad Bush is booked for South America this week.

The IV Summit of the Americas will bring Bush into territory that is not quite enemy but far less allied than before. Half the hemisphere's leaders have changed since Bush took office in 2001 promising to make Latin America a priority. The region's politics have changed too.

A resurgent left is reshaping Latin America. This year alone, leftist protests toppled governments in Ecuador and Bolivia. A socialist took power for the first time in Uruguay. And Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, swimming in oil profits and brimming with bravado, is rallying the region against the United States and its economic prescriptions.

All told, more than 320 million Latin Americans have seen their nations turn to the left in recent years--in Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru and Venezuela.

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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by Oui on Tue Nov 1st, 2005 at 01:33:51 PM EST
Now crossposted on dailyKos.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 07:43:51 AM EST


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