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American Poverty | 225 comments (225 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 0)

I hate to have to concede your point, but it is a fact that the only way to get 100+ comments in 24h on an ET diary is to get the conversation to touch on American poverty.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 12:20:23 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 0)

Or, more broadly, the relation of the American Dream to reality.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 12:34:40 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 1)

American Dream vs Reality: from an American writer

American Dream vs Reality: from the Mirror (UK) of all places

American Dream vs Reality: writer from New Mexico USA

American Dream vs Reality: the Seattle Times

my point: criticism of the American Dream and documentation of its collision course with reality is far from limited to this blog or to Europeans or to one axis of measurement (poverty, unemployment etc).

wchurchill, please walk do not run to the nearest bookstore whether bricks or clicks, or your local taxpayer-supported public library if it's still open any reasonable hours, find a copy of Gar Alperovitz' America Beyond Capitalism, read it,
and come on back for a nice lengthy discussion when I finally get around to posting my review.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 05:34:27 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 0)

I'll look for the book. I don't view myself as a capitalist however, as I've written in some very early posts

by wchurchill on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 09:08:42 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 0)

The reason I recommend it is that Alperovitz steps out of the traditional ruts of both lefty and righty economic analysis. I'll have more to say about the book when I have time to work on the review. But am trying to talk as many people as possible into reading it so that we can have an excellent discussion...

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 09:25:14 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 0)

good insight. I hadn't noticed that, but just looking at the diary comment numbers you are right. There are some great diaries that get very vew comments. and this subject does seem to bring lots of people out.

by wchurchill on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 01:28:37 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 0)

I think it is actually the same few people coming out. What it leads to is very deep threads - some posts get indented almost out of existence which indicates a debate going back and forth very often and so generating much heat and little light.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 01:51:40 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (none / 0)

Some very good posts don't leave much space for comments. Take some of J's great technical stuff: what the hell do you say about it? It'd take hours of research to comment in detail for most of us. Diaries that comprehensively deal with a topic, especially one that isn't controversial here, don't generate many comments.

So, when someone says Blair is a lying authoritarian wanker, not many comments get made: everyone knows that and simply sighs at the details of his latest outrage against human rights or whatever.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 04:35:00 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Ero Trib is American Poverty? (none / 1)

Maybe you should write that "J" is a lying authoritarian wanker. That would get a few comments....

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 05:23:13 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Ero Trib is American Poverty? (none / 1)

You hope.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 05:33:31 PM EST
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Re: Subject of the Eruop Trib is American Poverty? (4.00 / 2)

So, when someone says Blair is a lying authoritarian wanker,

I don't know about others, but I can't read that line often enough...

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 05:44:49 PM EST
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for your reading pleasure... (4.00 / 2)

Blair is a lying authoritarian wanker
Blair is a lying authoritarian wanker
Blair is a lying authoritarian wanker
Blair is a lying authoritarian wanker

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 13th, 2005 at 06:05:30 PM EST
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