The other thing is how many jobs here require a BA. Is a whole liberal arts education (while a lovely idea) really necessary to become an office manager? One of my cousins in Britain went to nursing college. At the same time, a friend of mine here wanted to be a nurse and spent half the time fuming about taking required maths and literature classes before she could even start training for her profession. Not to mention the expense of all of that. I was flabbergasted that my cousin could just go to school to learn nursing. Valuing education is a good thing, but I think it devalues it when we have a bunch of people in college simply jumping hurdles to get to their goal. Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes