they don't see any downside to lying, spinning, and cheating.
Are they wrong about that? All opposition (whether from Old Europe or from Democrats, sadly there is apparetnly no such thing as an "opposition" in the UK anymore) has been steamrolled or intimidated into powerlessness thanks to the plian media.
It's going to take a catastrohpe of major proportions to actually stop these people. In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
By the way, "neocon" conjures in my mind weveral amusing word associations. In English, "neo con-man" and "we have been neo-conned". In French, "neo-connerie". guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
