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I have no problems with that if the actual infrastructure remains public, and if the state is allowed to run or subsidize services to remote/low traffic destinations.

Well I do, wanting an integrated service (not the mess in Britain) and not seeing much sense in paying the deficits of a low-traffic line (always vulnerable to cost-cutting demands) but not getting the profits of high-traffic lines.

Who is going to pay for changing the gauge of the Spanish network?

Well, gauge changing is not part of the unification of technical standards, so I suspect the grand Spanish gauge-changing plan will only be paid for by the Spanish state, unless some structural or other EU funds can be tapped. (Some of the gauge-changing is in a way pre-financed, BTW: the track of upgraded Spanish broad-gauge lines like the Corredor Mediterráneo was fitted with special sleepers, on which gauge changing is a relatively simple task.)

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by DoDo on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:04:50 PM EST
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What I meant is that Spain will likely resist changing the gauge of existing lines. How does the EU expect French operators to operate in Spain?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:07:36 PM EST
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You mean, the current proposed national plan (PEIT) will be abadoned?

How does the EU expect French operators to operate in Spain?

Well, on international passenger lines, that will be easy: when the line across the Perthus tunnel opens, no gauge problem. But French (or Italian, or German, or private SPanish) operators can buy gauge-changing trains, too. Freight is another issue, but one limiting even traditional transport with handover at borders. I somehow feel Ricardo's Principle is at work here.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:42:27 PM EST
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This is great news for Talgo and CAF :-)

I was very surprised to learn a few years ago that Talgo had been chosen to provide the trains for the American line between Portland, OR and Seattle, WA.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:50:15 PM EST
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At around the same time, they even sold it to Germany, as night train!

And recently, CAF sold its own 250 km/h train (but in a non-gauge-changing verson) to Turkey, for service from 2007 or 2008 (most of the Ankara-Istambul line will by then be upgraded for 250 km/h) - beating rivals from Europe and Japan.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:57:52 PM EST
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What I mean is that if the EU were to rule that the different gauge is a barrier to competition and must be replaced immediately at Spanish expense there would be a lot of resistance. I guess the 20-30 years you mention in another post must be commensurate with maintenance schedules.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 01:02:54 PM EST
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