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Another interesting story about TALGO (which I don't know whether it's true or not) is that, on the higher-quality, more level, less-curvature high-speed lines, TALGO trains are as fast as the much more expensive high-speed AVE trains.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:27:03 PM EST
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I'm not sure what this information refers to, it could be multiple things.

  • One is that the first-generation AVE trains, which are TGV clones, started service in 1992 at reduced top speed - it was raised to 300 km/h only later.
  • The other possibility is that before Córdoba, there is a mountain crossing with strong grades, and the TGV just can't maintain top speed there.
  • The third possibility is a comparison done on the second high-speed line, the Madrid-Zaragoza-Lleida one, on which (due to a new signalling system still not ready for regular service) top speed is restricted to 200 km/h.
  • The fourth possibility is that the reference is to the new S102 class AVE train, which was manufactured by Talgo (factory name: Talgo350), and is capable of 330 km/h - tough it will go that fast only after the signalling is working (lot of pictures here).


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by DoDo on Tue Nov 22nd, 2005 at 12:53:09 PM EST
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