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China is lending the US money that the US then invests building manufacturing plants in china, employing Chinese workers and buying Chinese products.

China is giving the US what they want (money to shop tillthey drop) and the US is giving the Chinese what they want (a market for their products and transfer of industrial know-how).

The island example wrongly makes it sound like China is getting nothing out of this. The US economy is being hollowed out and the Chinese economy is booming. Maybe China is the parasite, and when they kill their host they will become an independent organism.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 21st, 2005 at 10:57:15 AM EST
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There's an element of both symbiosis and parasitism.

China does get industrial development, but a lot of it is export-oriented and (at least partly) foreign owned, and not so much of the value remains in China. It is beneficial, but it is artificial growth, and it is not clear if it will be sustainable without US demand.

The US get to live above their means, which is possible thanks to the status of the dollar as reserve currency - the trouble is that they have abused that privilege and are threatening to break the whole system.

As that Economist article we've discussed and which I have promised to review says, China is bringing an oversupply of labor into the world economy, putting downwards pressure on the price of labor, and giving a premium to the relatively rarer capital. But the USA are also flooding the market with money, making capital cheap - thus downwards pressure everywhere on the price of labor, and inflated asset prices.

Deflation form China and inflation from the USA. So long as they more or less balance, we're fine (doing very well if we own assets, not so well if one has a wage-paying job). As soon as the two bubbles diverge, we're all fucked.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Nov 21st, 2005 at 12:51:11 PM EST
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I suppose the real parasites are the multinationals. They are squeezing the Chinese for labour and the Americans for cash.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 21st, 2005 at 12:54:08 PM EST
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Exactly. The modern economy in 13 words.


The multinationals are squeezing the Chinese for labour and the Americans for cash

And I would add - they are mocking the Europeans mercilessly for not giving them any easy fat to burn.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Nov 21st, 2005 at 01:00:55 PM EST
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