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Can someone explain what this means to me?
These small gains of $16bn will come at considerable costs. The losses in tariff revenues alone will be more than twice the benefit, or $32bn. Developing countries rely on tariffs revenue for 20 per cent of all government revenue, and therefore development policy.
It seems to say that it's better for the less developed country if they continue to import food, because the government puts a 20% tariff on it (adding 20% to the cost of food for the people), and this is a good thing because the government (who knows how corrupt?) gets a lot of tax revenue from this--ie by taxing the people's food.  This is better than letting farmers in these countries grow their own food, compete on the world market, have jobs?

I must be misinterpretting this.  Someone please set me straight.

by wchurchill on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 11:52:42 AM EST
I think that applies to all imports, not just food.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 11:55:00 AM EST
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Right, but it evidently applies to food too?  It sounds like you are reading this the way I am Colman--in the sense of what it means?
by wchurchill on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 11:56:48 AM EST
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I'm not sure about that. It's possible, but not necessarily the case - I suspect this is an artefact of the FT editing the letter for brevity.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 12:03:30 PM EST
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If what is taxed is the 'people's food', what do you think these countries would be able to export?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 11:56:20 AM EST
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I don't understand the relationship between the statement, "If what is taxed is the 'people's food'," and the question: "what do you think these countries would be able to export?"  
by wchurchill on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 12:00:25 PM EST
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If imports are "people's food", that would imply a food shortage in that country. The Doha Round is supposed to be about such countries' economic progress through access to Western markets, yet the result in your scenario would be (a) even less local produce for the locals just because of exports, (b) the death of most of the local production as foreign imports get cheaper, (c) as a direct but delayed consequence of this collapse, a lot of people would not be able to buy even the cheaper Western produce, resulting in an artifical famine like in Niger earlier this year.

(Actually, I do not think even the food part of it is 'people's food' - to a large part, more likely the local elites' and the local small middle classes' food.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 12:21:28 PM EST
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You're probably right that tariffs are not the best kind of income for these countries, but it is usually one of the easiest to "capture", and it is a real short term budgetary issue if it disappears. Finding other sources of income for the government should thus be part of the adjustments that are made as part of the trade reforms. But is this discussed at Doha?

As usual, the more you dig into these questions, the more complex things are, and the more difficult it gets to justify "simple" solutions.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 11:59:10 AM EST
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but it is usually one of the easiest to "capture"

I think you nailed it right here, unless I didn't follow what you meant properly.  Tax collection can be a very difficult thing in these countries.  Ideally, you would want to lay the burden primarily on the wealthy (though you, of course, want to avoid choking the economy).  But, chances are, the wealthy control the government and can find ways of getting around it, so that ideal cannot become reality.

I agree, completely, that tariffs are a bad thing to tax in these countries, especially if food falls under those tariffs.  You're also write that the issue of "Okay, so how do we get revenue?" needs to be discussed more.

20% tariffs don't necessarily translate to 20% price increases.  It depends on the good.  In the case of food, with little competition from domestic producers, it probably would result in roughly a 20% increase in price, since everyone has got to eat and the demand is inelastic.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 12:46:56 PM EST
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That should say, "You're also RIGHT...."

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Nov 25th, 2005 at 12:48:07 PM EST
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