Personally I am wedded to the enlightenment ideals of reason and progress, but I realize that's just not the way real people operate. All I can hope for is enlightened, rational and progressive analysis and policy, but the first step in enlightened, rational analysis is to take a long, hard look at reality. guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
the French "Republican Principle" and its inability to accomodate true ethnic diversity.
That "inability" thing is crap, and it is only coming from our current inability to look at thing beyond the next quarterly figures. Integration takes place over generations, and France is doing just as well as it did with Poles and Italians and others in previous generations. It's just that we now see Poles and Italians as fully integrated and don't remember the problems back then, and we see the more recent North African immigrants are only partly integrated and as a "problem".
Here's one graph, I fully intend to come back with more:
This shows that while there are real differences between immigrants and natives, there are almost none between sons (in this graph, but this also applies to daughters) of immigrants and sons of natives. In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
And in any case, don't you really need a graph showing incomes, not occupations? All this really shows is that immigrants' children are less likely than their parents to be "ouvriers". I know of no data suggesting they earn the same as whites.
Also, since most companies pay on a salary grid in France, salary is closely linked to function and diploma for most people. Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
