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... except that you cannot host your pictures for now on eurotrib. Get a hosting site if you don't have one, and use the URL from there to follow ths instructions in the link above.

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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Dec 11th, 2005 at 05:22:52 PM EST
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I recommend picsplace.to - very very easy to handle: you just hit "Browse", choose the image file on your computer, then hit "Upload" - and it uploads, and offers you a number of possible html (and not html) codes to link. Best just copy the second from bottom (the one starting < img).

However, note: if you want to post something at EuroTrib, make sure it is not wider than 600 pixels. If you don't have an image software to make a smaller version, type width="600" (with spaces before and after) after img - it'll look something like this:

< img width="600" src="http://image.picsplace.to/a/b/yourimage.jpg" >

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Dec 11th, 2005 at 06:38:31 PM EST
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Can I query that 600-pixel width for images, DoDo? I have my screen set at 800x600. (Perhaps not everyone does, but it seems to be the setting most websites are designed for.) On the ET home page, the frames on the left are set at 180 pixels, and on the right at 150 pixels, plus a bit for margins. That leaves (on an 800-width screen) 460-odd pixels for the central column. So images should not be wider than that, and the user guide suggests 400 pixels to avoid messing other users' screens up.

I hate to say this, since your photos, be they of locomotives or landscapes as above, are fantastic -- but they systematically over-widen ET for me. I just checked, by blocking images from your picserver so the photo of Banska Stiavnica didn't come up. Zap, the ET page was the right width.

If everyone else has their screens set at 1024 width, I shall cease and desist ;)

(And maybe there's something I have overlooked or don't understand at all...)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 08:43:04 AM EST
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I used to have a 2048 x 1200 (2 screens), but I'd spend more time playing around with my 2 screens than when I only had one, so I switched back to a 1600 x 1200.

ps: your legendary TM tags, afew, are barely visible on my screen

Alex's showoff-so-that-afew-gets-an-upgrade Technology ™
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 08:56:42 AM EST
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Isn't that part of the point? The best snark technology is subtle.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 09:17:00 AM EST
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I meant it's particularly hard to see size-wise on my MEGA HUGE SCREEN THAT AFEW WISHES HE'D OWN TOO, but you're right. Damn you, you're always right!
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 09:21:35 AM EST
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You're the kind of guy who drives a mega-SUV down the narrowest streets in Toulouse and crushes humble passers-by like me against the wall. That's what I think.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:15:02 AM EST
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You're the kind of guy who'd propose a lowest common denominator for the EU budget just because you wouldn't be able to cope with the idea that I get 22% of the CAP.
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:20:59 AM EST
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No, stop, that's below the belt. I'm not Bliar, all the same.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:26:53 AM EST
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I'd give that a 10 if my screen weren't so damn small...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:11:44 AM EST
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Oh shit. I'm so impressed. You used to have two, and now you've only got one, it's much bigger than mine. I bet you have fun playing around with it. Wow. How can I live this down?

I'm going to have to stick up for myself, if you see what I mean. Er... As you know since you stole my code (watch out, there's a DRM in there, and when that new French law gets voted in before Christmas, you'll be right in the shit), I just used the small font size from the ET style sheet for my tag, so presumably, ET is kinda vaguely designed with less enormous screens than yours in mind.

Anyway, small is beautiful. Hah.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:10:24 AM EST
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Aha but you're only saying this because you haven't touched my screen yet, do you want to touch it, do you want to touch it?
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:16:28 AM EST
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Well, can I just have a look at it first?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:25:13 AM EST
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Well, you might get eyesore. You know these babies have to be approached in careful steps.
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:32:08 AM EST
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You can use a narrow version of the pic in the IMG tag, and put the image tag inside an A tag pair pointing to a large version of the picture.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 08:59:39 AM EST
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Can I query that 600-pixel width for images, DoDo? I have my screen set at 800x600.

Still? Sorry, didn't thought of users like you...

So images should not be wider than that, and the user guide suggests 400 pixels to avoid messing other users' screens up.

Double-sorry - I either forgot or never read that part... may try to squeeze my images down to 400.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 09:13:46 AM EST
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Hm, I see I failed a 20kb max recommendation too... but so did Jérôme in all but one image above.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 09:42:46 AM EST
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The 20kb limit is mentioned for the ET server, but since that isn't available...
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:16:43 AM EST
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Not to you, but it is to frontpagers.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:58:30 AM EST
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Show-off!

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:06:34 AM EST
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Neene-neene-neene :-)

Seriously, both Jérôme's above uploaded photos and my uploaded graphs for the OECD education statistics are multiples of 20kb.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:12:53 AM EST
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Oh, no, the Hungarian knight who says nee!

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:14:56 AM EST
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Bring me the head of Shrub!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:19:44 AM EST
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You want shrubliaries?

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:22:00 AM EST
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"Still?"

Seems to me many websites have a basic 800x600 design, and though ET isn't limited by it, it's based on it...

Obviously, if everyone's got a bigger one than me, I'm just going to shut up :-)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:20:06 AM EST
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I bet DoDo has a really big screen and you're dying to touch it too.
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:23:13 AM EST
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Do you put a headscarf on your screen?

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:24:30 AM EST
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No, he lurks around the Post Office for his headscarf kicks.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:29:20 AM EST
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I might emigrate to Canada, legend has it that people over there commonly wear face masks in winter.
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:34:45 AM EST
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I think 800x600 is silly.

On the other hand, a well-designed website should be browsable with a text-only browser (such as Lynx). And, in the age of hand-held devices like phones and blackberries, 800x600 is a luxury.

Inline images should have ALT text, too.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:23:52 AM EST
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Well, I have 1024*768 at home, in the measuring car, and in the office, my collagues have the same on their notebooks, and this is considered turning small! Back when I was at the university, 1280*1024 was on the monitors for newer UNIX machines, and there was a machine for CGI at another department already with the resolution of Alex's machine.

I never thought about website design, but now that you said, I see a lot of what I visit (also BBC's or SPIEGEL ON-LINE's) are indeed for 800x600 - but others are of a dynamic design.

As I said, I will be more careful from now on.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:51:41 AM EST
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It's true that 1024 x 768 is starting to be considered small, as 17" inch monitors are commonly replacing 14/15" ones. But it's also true that websites generally go for the smallest resolution (though in all fairness 640x480 is still around there, somewhere).

Actually my screen is not large for any particular pleasure of mine like CGI or games or whatever of the sort, it's just that I can then fit a lot more code horizontally in it and it then makes my work easier (I get annoyed at programmers who wrap their code around to fit on 800x600 screens, it makes the code more annoying to read, to me that is). That's also why I had tried 2 screens, then it was awesome - I could write really large lines of code stretching from one screen to the other, this was useful for some features I used.

But like I said, the problem with 2 screens it that it becomes kind of a gadget, as you can then drag windows from one screen to the other, decide what opens where etc etc. And I ended up wasting a lot of time shifting things around, which I didn't do before that (I'd then -and now- just pile things on top of each other).

by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:00:01 AM EST
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My crappy LCD monitor at work is 17", can do 1280*1024, but looks so crappy that way that I switched it back to 1024*768.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:09:31 AM EST
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In my last job, the PC at work was so horribly slow, that I had to convince my boss to allow me to bring in my own PC to work every day. And I don't work with laptops, those I consider to be gadgets too. So I'd lug my PC casing around every morning, and take it back home every evening.
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:20:38 AM EST
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I've got a 17" job (no further comment) and I just reset it to 1024x768, so no problem with your pics, DoDo. It's just an old surfing habit of having it set to 800x600 because that seemed to fit more sites. Hah, but times are changing.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 11:28:10 AM EST
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I guess I shouldn't mention my 20" iMac at 1680x1050 around here.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 04:37:40 PM EST
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Those are just weird, with a tiny keyboard in the middle of a huge white board. You would have expected Apple to come up with something to do with all that real estate.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 12th, 2005 at 06:14:24 PM EST
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