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You probably know this crazy project of a high-speed train running at 600 km/h in low-pressure tunnels ? Two tunnels were planned: Geneva-Sankt Gallen (about 250 km) and Basel-Bellinzona (200 km).
by Hansvon on Tue Dec 20th, 2005 at 02:21:28 PM EST
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How far was that project advanced? Was it just wild phantasizing by an engineer put out to the press, or were politicians discussing it, or were there even feasibility studies prepared - and (if yes failed I suppose) referendums on it?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Dec 20th, 2005 at 02:51:26 PM EST
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The Prof. M. Jufer from EPFL did start the project in 1992. Several feasibility studies were paid through the Swiss Confederation. The last one (Projekt HISTAR II, mostly computer simulations) ended last September with encouraging results.
A postulat is asking the Swiss Government for further funding (about 1/1000 of the transportation budget, about 7 mio CHF/5 mio €) for the year 2006-2008. Decision will be made next spring.
by Hansvon on Tue Dec 20th, 2005 at 06:02:50 PM EST
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Wow! And I was thinking the project is dead!

What are the currently projected costs? Considering the cost of €10 billion for altogether 100 km of tunnels in NEAT, I'd expect something like €50 billion at least, but maybe there are economies of scale and spared elements (track for one)?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Dec 20th, 2005 at 06:52:51 PM EST
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The cost for the pilot between Geneva and Lausanne (60 km) will be about 2.5 mia CHF (1.7 mia €). I've seen the following figure for the whole project: between 25 and 28 mia CHF (18 mia €), split as 13 mia CHF for the line between Geneva and Sankt-Gallen, and 12-15 mia CHF for the line between Basel and Bellinzona.
For comparison, Rail 2000 was 7.4 mia CHF and Alptransit 14 mia CHF.
by Hansvon on Wed Dec 21st, 2005 at 10:46:07 AM EST
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25 and 28 mia CHF (18 mia €)

Whoa - much cheaper than I thought! (BTW, in English, there is no Milliarde - these uneducated barbarians call it a billion :-))

For comparison, Rail 2000 was 7.4 mia CHF and Alptransit 14 mia CHF.

Planned - the former was put into service after remaining waaay below budget (CHF 5.9 billion), but the latter became more expensive (due to inflation, project changes and some geologic problems), now projected to cost CHF 16.40 billion (€10.55 billion) in the end.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Dec 21st, 2005 at 11:09:09 AM EST
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