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HEY FOLKS.. oops.. im at an internet cafe for the time being.  I wasnt trying to step on the other story of the renditions, I had just written the above piece for the blog and then was tryign to see if I could post to ET. so my apologies and I'll take it off if it's overstepping the other story.

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by soj on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 04:46:13 AM EST
Some of Fran's clippings have a number of quotes from Rice, but there wasn't someone yet who put a full analysis on that speech - which is most welcome.

I've already stated that the phrase "Protect the Citizens" (either European or American) is one of the big misnomers in the entire thing. You just added one more bullet to shoot this speech to pieces.

Well done, and you're spot on convicting terrorists. 80.000 captured and a handful convicted (I thought the number was less than 50). If the Bush government was the CEO of a company, they would've been sacked.

by Nomad on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 05:39:04 AM EST
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I agree completely with your views.  I would like
a bit more detail on the 80,000 detainees figure,
not because I don't believe it, but since I suspect
it will raise hackles and be contested.

In general, it seems that the Bush administration's inveterate tendency to lie and fabricate "evidence"
is finally reaching the point where even their
supporters are having difficulty in defending the horsemanure they are dispensing.

They seem to lie about everything, but we are supposed to believe their version of 9/11 as if it were Gospel.

Hannah K. O'Luthon

by Hannah K OLuthon on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 07:01:08 AM EST
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Most of the 80,000 were released since - which only hints at the 'efficiency' of unlawful arrests just on suspicion.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 07:11:27 AM EST
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