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tyronen, as was covered several times at ET, Europe imports a lot from Africa (under preferential treatment treaties!), and destroying the CAP wouldn't help the Africans a bit - it would help industrial producers (who are usually big landlords) in countries like Argentine, Brazil and Australia.

Most of what you can read in the Anglo-Saxon press on the CAP is spin.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 02:17:12 PM EST
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Please stop using that phrase.  There is a world of difference, culturally and politically, between the UK, the US, Canada, Australia, Ireland, and New Zealand.

It's not even historically accurate - Britons today are as much descended from the Norman-French as from the Angles and Saxons of medieval times.

To me it is every bit as offensive as "frog" would be to a French person.

by tyronen on Thu Dec 8th, 2005 at 01:39:10 PM EST
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43,000 google hits in English for "Anglo-Saxon model". Top 10 hits:

  • The Anglo-Saxon model of capitalism - The Adam Smith Institute
  • When we look over the attributes of the Anglo-Saxon model of capitalism...
  • Detestation of the ultraliberal Anglo-Saxon model is thought largely to explain...
  • If the Anglo-Saxon model today appears to be doing very well on a world scale...
  • Value Based Management Forum: Dutch study confirms Anglo-Saxon Anglo-Saxon model is best for economy
  • Anglo-Saxon model offers better jobs and incomes deal
  • THE ANGLO-SAXON VERSUS THE CONTINENTAL EUROPEAN CORPORATE ...
  • Is the American Model Miss World? Choosing between the Anglo-Saxon model and a European-style alternative.
  • Anglo-Saxon model
  • The anglo-saxon model: a critical view


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 8th, 2005 at 01:56:21 PM EST
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Google hits do not make the term any more accurate.

There is no "Anglo-Saxon model".  You can speak of an "American model" or a "British model", but the two are very different.  The UK has universal public health care, reasonable public transportation, and paid parental leave, none of which exist in the US.  In fact, the UK is much closer to continental Europe than it is to the US.

by tyronen on Thu Dec 8th, 2005 at 02:18:19 PM EST
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The term does exist, and it is used by the English language press in exactly the way DoDo did.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 8th, 2005 at 05:11:54 PM EST
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Yup, and we've said that repeatedly around here as well: the Anglo-Saxon model is the bullshit free-trade model pushed by the rhetoric in the US and Britain and by the English-language business press. It's all nonsense: neither country actually implements free-trade at all. The phrase is a bit silly, but we sure as hell didn't originate it - complain to the FT if you like.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 03:09:21 AM EST
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And 1,780,000 hits for "Anglo Saxon Press" which is the term DoDo used.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 8th, 2005 at 01:59:20 PM EST
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Indeed. I could have said "the English-language press of English-speaking countries", but the shorter term already exists and is in use throughout the world.

(And if tyronen wants to do genetics, let's not forget the Brit-Celtic, Roman and early Viking lineages assimilated by the Angles, Friesians and Saxons; and of course much more Saxon genes are around in Germany.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 04:55:08 AM EST
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To me [using Anglo-Saxon to refer to former British Colonies] is every bit as offensive as "frog" would be to a French person.
Are you saying "Gaul" is as offensive as "frog" when referring to the French? Get a grip.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 05:45:02 AM EST
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Excuse me, could you please stop including Ireland in your reading of the phrase Anglo-Saxon? It's very offensive.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 06:23:13 AM EST
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