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... and fuck his retirement.  I hope it's not pleasant.  I hope it involves being cold and eating cat food.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 05:28:52 PM EST
What do you hope Bush's retirement to be like, then? Like this?


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 05:32:18 PM EST
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...no.  In all honesty.  And I was just thinking about that myself (I should never post in the heat of anger).  That said, I don't feel bad about wishing cold and cat food on Greenspan -- I am but a weak mortal -- but I wouldn't want that wish enacted or enforced by the government.  I wouldn't take steps.

And if there was a chance in hell this would happen to Greenie or I was aware of actual suffering on his part -- in real life I would seek to relieve it.  I'm not a cruel person (I've been accused of being a big softie if you can believe it).

But we all have these sorts of thoughts within us.  This is why I get so mad when politicians invoke the victims feelings about certain matters like imprisonment or the death penalty and ask "how would you feel if..."  How we feel about such things on an individual level shouldn't matter.  

We shouldn't be so personal when it comes to governing.  The function of government is to protect us from our own and each others' bad impulses.  Not as in being moral and protecting us from "sins," but to be an impartial expression of what we collectively know is "right" and to apply things like the rule of law and regulations without emotion.

So, long way of saying I don't actually wish Greenspan the real person any harm and will not seek to accomplish such a goal, but I do have daydreams once and awhile -- it's my bad side.  It's not right, but I was momentarily gratified by imagining him with mittens and a can of Purina.  Old Testament justice for sure -- I don't approve of myself in this instance.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 05:55:08 PM EST
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In fact, I imagine a lot of retirees his age end up cold and eating cat food... I wonder if he ever thinks about such people.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 06:13:39 PM EST
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That was the "thought" behind my earlier outburst.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 06:24:45 PM EST
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Maybe simply make him live on the minimum social security payments?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 06:15:05 PM EST
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Doesn't that amount to the same thing?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 06:17:15 PM EST
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Yes it does equal the same thing.  My grandmother worked for over 35 years for the same company (in retail) and her social security check was about $230 per month.  She retired around 1990.

Luckily, she had a small pension from the company as well, bringing her income to about $550, and she also owned the condo she lived in outright, due to one of her brothers, she had good medical benefits, and utilities in L.A were low, so she got by.

But what about all the people who don't have brothers and private pensions?  Minimum wage has barely gone up, so the social security benefits haven't much either.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 9th, 2005 at 06:31:55 PM EST
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