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by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Jun 17th, 2005 at 09:30:45 AM EST
This is a good example of the EU democratic deficit. The legislation is proposed by the member states, by their not directly elected executive branches, and the directly elected Parliament has no say. Unacceptable, if you ask me. And the substance of it: way to go. A Patriot Act is just what Europe now needs.

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by Sirocco (sirocco2005ATgmail.com) on Fri Jun 17th, 2005 at 10:51:00 AM EST
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Since Third Pillar affairs are intergovernmental agreements, publics have only one recourse...contact your local member of parliament and/or complain through national governmental channels. Pressure on national governments has the possibility to sway decisions by member states in third pillar areas. So there is a democratic channel for public participation; however, the problem is that these issues never get put before the publics in national political discourses. They are seen as technical issues.

As a long-time fan of the EP, I'd prefer to see most of these third pillar areas communitised into first pillar...but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

by gradinski chai on Fri Jun 17th, 2005 at 11:33:47 PM EST
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The European Council (not the council of the European Union) is where all the countries meet - and vote. Unil recently, most votes were unanimous - each government had to approve. Now, some only require a majority.

The European Parliament only has co-decision powers (i.e. bothe the European council and the European Parliament must approve the text in the same terms) in a limited number of areas of decision.

The EU Constitution was giving a number of new co-decision powers to the European Parliament, and this is one of the main reasons why the "non" is a bad thing.

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by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Jun 17th, 2005 at 11:50:01 AM EST
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Maybe efforts such as European Tribune are the way to in a very small way address the democracy deficit. Your efforts here are so valued and potentially earthshaking for the standard ways that some decisions in the EU are made.

Look at this issue. How many people would have known about this if it were not for the European Tribune? Only those techies and a few who happen to wade through the back pages of newspapers. But here, here is a forum to educate people and get them to put pressure on a national level which in turn may make states in Pillar II & III areas think twice before agreeing. People contact their local members of parliament or local newspapers...these have the (granted small) possibility of affecting a member state's decision. In a sense, use this space in the way that dKos activates its members to contact congressional offices.

It may not be an easy channel to use and it may work clumsily, but it can at least be a partial way to address the democracy deficit for now.

by gradinski chai on Fri Jun 17th, 2005 at 11:45:18 PM EST
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I admit I'm not as up to speed on EU structures as I'd like to be, but the corresponding EU website headlines itself Council of the European Union", and describes itself as "... the main decision-making body of the European Union".

The site has a sidebar to the European Council, which describes itself as "...the name given to the regular meetings of Heads of State and Government of EU Member States, and the President of the European Commission (sometimes also called Summit)."

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Jun 19th, 2005 at 02:52:34 AM EST
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