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I understand that some of the people who spend real money investing in Eastern Europe are pretty happy with the prospects for Bulgaria.

I don't think that anything short of Bulgaria doing something spectacular can derail accession at this stage. Is there even any legal basis for doing so? Does anyone dislike the Bulgarians particularly?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 08:32:01 AM EST
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probably a lot more dislike for the Romanians, who are often associated with the Roms, and sadly seem to constitute a (highly visible) majority of panhandlers in the Paris metro.

Plus the aggressive pro-American stance of the Romanian government certainly does not help in Paris...

Speaking for myself, my own experience of the two countries is limited to a drive through both late in the summer of 1992. Bulgaria appeared to be less backward and brainwashed to me than Romania. (for instance, you could find petrol stations on the road...)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 08:37:27 AM EST
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If it makes you feel any better Jerome, the majority of the panhandlers at the Bucharest metro are also ethnic Rroma ;)

BTW the Austrian giant OMV bought Petrom so there are plenty of modern "petrol" stations all over the place now ;)

Pax

Night and day you can find me Flogging the Simian

by soj on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 09:15:50 AM EST
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the famous/infamous "Bulgarian Clause" that is part of Bulgaria's agreements with the EU (Romania's also) could force a one-year delay if the Commission (or Council) deem it necessary. Judicial reform is the biggest problem. This means some technical changes in the organization of the system and making the process a little faster and less formalistic.

The "no" vote has made some people take the "see, I told you we wouldn't get in" perspective. Some conspiracy theorists are voicing the argument that Latin-language Romania will get in while Slavic-language Bulgaria will not, despite the fact that Bulgaria has been a stronger supporter of the European line than Romania with respect to the International Criminal Court. Bulgaria didn't sign a special agreement with the US, Romania did. It cost Bulgaria $20 million in US military aid.

by gradinski chai on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 08:43:21 AM EST
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They're mad. People in the west of Europe don't know enough about Bulgaria to have any interest in keeping it out (sorry). Romania is represented largely by Romas begging in the streets and desperate conditions in orphanages. This hasn't given the country the best of images in Western states.

(And before Soj is mean to me, I understand entirely that this is an unfair depiction of the country.)

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 08:55:30 AM EST
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My apologies if that post came off as a bit critical of Romania. I didn't mean anything bad about Romanians at all. However, I was somewhat pissed that the government signed the agreement with the US on the ICC.
by gradinski chai on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 09:03:54 AM EST
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Ahh its ok.. people always confuse Rroma with Romanians, as thought they are one and the same - they're not.

And yes I agree with both you and the Diarist about the pro-US stance, although I should mention Romania is slated to get just one US base while Bulgaria is slated to get six.  And if you think the US will station troops there without an Article 98 exemption, you're nuts.

Pax

Night and day you can find me Flogging the Simian

by soj on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 09:18:11 AM EST
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We're hearing down here maybe, MAYBE two bases with another two or three in Romania. Who knows?

I'm still betting that Bulgaria won't sign. Simeon's government said "no" and if the Socialists win, then it's definitely "no" on that one.

by gradinski chai on Fri Jun 24th, 2005 at 09:43:14 AM EST
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