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This is the great fear that paralyzes the antiwar left in the US. The Vietnam analogy stands up in many respects, but not all, and certainly there is more at stake strategically in the Middle East than there was in Southeast Asia.

It's going to take some serious diplomatic talent, and some substantive gimme's to Europeans and others to help us out.

Great comment, Upstate.

Pogo: We have met the enemy, and he is us.

by d52boy on Mon Jun 27th, 2005 at 12:16:59 AM EST
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Look at the way the Euros are dealing with Iran. Look at how they maintained relations with Saddam after the Gulf War. I firmly believe you can actually cut some deals that will quell some of the violence in Iraq. Emphasis on the "some."

The fighters from outside Iraq are there for another reason. But the insurgency of former Baathists and Iraqi Army can be quelled once their leaders are cut in. The Iranians would cut a deal as well, so the Shiites would play ball.

Right now, American policy is hostage to Halliburton.

Once you cut the Iraqis in, however, the idea that Iraq will become a democracy modeled on NeoCon deluded fantasies is completely dead, if anyone actually believed it in the first place.

I think 2008 may be just long enough for the American public to realize how insane our foreign policy is. At least I'm hoping this is true.

by Upstate NY on Mon Jun 27th, 2005 at 08:55:45 AM EST
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