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That sounds like a programme for disaster, all in all. Great.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jul 12th, 2005 at 08:59:32 AM EST
Exactly my thoughts...

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by DoDo on Tue Jul 12th, 2005 at 09:37:03 AM EST
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I hope you and Colman are both right. I do not worry so much about Merkel. But with the CDU the CSU (it Bavarian sister-party) and Stoiber are not far away, and that means very-far-right.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 12th, 2005 at 10:25:37 AM EST
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I hope you and Colman are both right.

Huh!?

Either I misunderstood Colman, or you both of us, or you hate Germany, or (most likely) I misunderstood your comment...

I do not worry so much about Merkel. But with the CDU the CSU (it Bavarian sister-party) and Stoiber are not far away, and that means very-far-right.

Stoiber is not as far right as the Prime Minister of Hessen state, Roland Koch (from the CDU). Stoiber just does too much for a folksy image (while being a spineless power broker), Koch is an aggressive demagogue, corrupt and absolutely reckless. And he is said to become a minister.

But the thread is about the programme, and that is a load of destructive crap in my opinion.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Jul 12th, 2005 at 12:25:36 PM EST
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Sorry, my comment was unclear - as it might be a programm towards desaster, maybe Merkel CDU will not be elected. I was not aware of Koch, only of Stoiber. But if Koch and Stoiber become ministers they will influence the CDU program and that would be a move to the right. However, Schröder was not that great either. So I really don't know what to think of the situation in Germany.

P.S. I do not hate Germany, but sometimes my english is not that great.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 12th, 2005 at 12:37:06 PM EST
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, most voters just want change, along the lines of "anything is better than the continuation of this", but most managed to chose something that is worse. I saw poll after poll showing that most voters don't believe the CDU can improve the economy either, replies on Turkey depend on the wording of the question (there is majority support for Turkey joining the EU over the medium or longer term), and wide majorities don't want Bush or nuclear plants.

Oh, and yes, I agree, Schröder is an idiot. (My reasons are his practical sellout on every leftist idea, his clumsy pandering to various strongmen from industry captains to Putin, his backstabbing of his coalition partners the Greens, and his general bungling - Iraq was a rare exception.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Jul 12th, 2005 at 05:14:52 PM EST
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