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My only understanding of these issues comes from reading here and on DKos, so please excuse my ignorance, but has has anybody run the numbers using industrial hemp? I ask this because I have read in the past that hemp doesn't require the fertilizer/persticide input that adds to pollution and energy use to the equation. Plus it may yield more biomass per acre than other plants.

Another question- since diesel engines get better mileage than gas engines, shouldn't the numbers for US fleet consumption be adjusted to take into account a change-over to the use of biodiesel?

Thanks to everyone who posts knowledgeably on these topics, I'm getting a great education and appreciate the energy (pun intended) you folks put into collecting info and sharing same.

by US Blues on Fri Jul 15th, 2005 at 10:25:22 AM EST
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Hemp is MJ is bad. Didn't you learn anything from "Reefer Madness?"  :-)

Diesel cars get better mileage because of two reasons. First the Diesel cycle is more efficient in the thermodyanamic sense because it uses higher pressure. In modern high speed diesel engines the differentiation between the Diesel and Otto cycles is blurred, so this is not as strong an effect as it might be.

Second, diesel fuel contains more energy than the same amount of gasoline. So you need more crude oil to make it, and the Miles Per Gallon (or Liters Per Kilometer) metric is misleading. You need to de-rate diesel fuel economy numbers by about 20% to do a good comparison of the two fuels on an energy basis.

Really what should happen is that government standards, and all discussions, should be held in terms of energy use rather than miles per gallon. Doing so would make it possible to make sensible comparisons between electric cars, gasoline and diesel internal combusion engine cars, steam (external combusion) cars, hydrogen, fuel cell, etc.

by asdf on Fri Jul 15th, 2005 at 01:13:46 PM EST
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