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I don't think we should follow Chirac in framing this in nationalist terms, particularly when the only firm conclusions I can come to given these stats are:

  1. Both the UK and France are incredibly affluent countries.
  2. Their economic performance is roughly the same.

The one stark difference is in unemployment and poverty numbers. As someone else points out, France has relatively high unemployment but low poverty, and the UK has the reverse. France has made an economic choice to make tackling poverty more important than providing jobs, with resulting higher unemployment. That's neither better nor worse, I don't think. It's a difference in social priorities given two difficult choices. I tend to favor the French approach, probably because I live in the US and am disillusioned with the low unemployment/high poverty model it shares with the UK. But I can see advantages to both socio-economic models.
by Cascadia Progressive on Fri Jul 15th, 2005 at 02:59:40 PM EST
Well, you're completely right.
it's a choice of society model. As far as I can tell, the only problem with the french situation (I can't speak about the english one because I never lived there -and, oh, I'd would like, despite the bad food... just kidding) is that the unemployed people who are "well" treated by the different welfare programs are simply not happy. At all.

That's what the NO vote showed. From the left wing and also from the extreme right wing.

So is this working on the long run ? I don't know. But you ought to make your people happy if you pretend to be (or to become) a good society.

Another explanation could be that the French get too much of those things and don't know how lucky they are (again, they kind of deserve it because they choose this model).

Or that they know it and hang desperately to those benefits... which will make things worse in the long run because we need reforms.

by Jerome USA on Sat Jul 16th, 2005 at 01:23:33 AM EST
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