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I'm confused at this point...I don't know what information is real and what is being put out for public consumption (for whatever reasons).

Since you are following this one each day, could you do a summary of information...even if the info contradicts?

What I think I know is this:

One person who was identified has not been located (or has been arrested in Eqypt?)

The four may have been part of a group that was outed by the US at the time of the democratic convention b/c the Bushies revealed a Brit operation using a guy, Khan, who was pretending he was not in Brit custody/a mole to get info about groups inside GB.

Others were chased down, but these four may have been part of one group that was able to get away?

Initial reports of the type of explosive were based upon...what?

Powers was leading a group of experts in a mock drill that focused on the very sites that were bombed (which were key points on the tube system anyway) when the drill became real.

Guiliani was in the area and may or may not have been part of that group.

GB allows radical muslim groups to continue inside their country, unlike France (and who else?)...The Netherlands has changed its law to be able to deport people asso. with radical groups, even if no crime has occurred.

Who is the iman who would be considered the spiritual leader for this group? and, btw, do all radical clerics belong to the same branch of Islam? ...bin Laden is Wahabbist...the fundamentalist part of the ISI in Pakistan is... what? I know they sympathized with the Taliban, who sheltered bin Laden...

by fauxreal on Sat Jul 16th, 2005 at 11:38:32 AM EST
The problem with events of this nature is that there is always a high "noise to signal" ratio: there are always incorrect early reports, rumours and "speculations as truths" that muddy the waters initially. The information released by the investigation is still partial - they have identified four suspects who they believe were suicide bombers using home-made explosives. That is pretty much it so far.

The Powers allegations are interesting - but until others who were participants in the simulation that he claims to have been running come forward to corroborate his claims, then there is not a lot more that can be said.

by londanium on Sat Jul 16th, 2005 at 11:45:38 AM EST
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The fourth and last bomber to be named was Lindsey Germaine -19-, Jamaican-born British resident and a Muslim convert.

All four persons have been named, not necessarily their remains identified, DNA analysis must confirm ID.

These four persons were not hiding, their residence was known.

A 5th person is chemistry student/teacher Magdy el-Nashar, who has been located in Egypt on holiday and remains in custody of Egyptian Justice. El-Nashar was in Egypt and did not go into hiding.


Egyptian biochemist Magdy Mahmoud el-Nashar

A Syrian national has been named, Mustafa Setmariam Nasar, and is now sought by UK investigators, he was on the terror watch list. Recently Nasar entered the UK and was not kept under surveillance. It is known he left the UK before the 7/7 London attacks.

Initial reports on the explosives was an educated guess by the experts because of the power of the blasts, relative to the weight of a bomb that could be carried in a backpack. Assumption was a powerful explosive and therefore of military or commercial origin. This has now been debunked by further forensic evidence.

The involvement of Nethanyahu, Powers and Gulliani in London has been extensively covered in other diaries.

Background of spiritual leaders for this group may not be found, as what I read these four persons weren't seen as radical at all. The major contributor of funds and extremist, Islam fundamentalism in The Netherlands is Saudi Arabia as I covered in my previous diary.

The In-Depth information on Islam, fundamentalism and the connection Afghanistan, OBL, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia I could provide some links for further comprehensive reading.

  • BBC News - Investigating Al-Qaeda ◊ History of OBL's Network
  • Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States ◊ by Rohan Gunaratna - July 9, 2003

    USA WELCOME: Make Yourself Known @BooMan Tribune and add some cheers!

  • by Oui on Sat Jul 16th, 2005 at 02:35:48 PM EST
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    The Mustafa Setmariam information is almost certainly wrong - the guy has a $5 million FBI bounty on his head, so if he would be automatically picked up were he to try to enter the UK.
    by londanium on Sun Jul 17th, 2005 at 10:50:32 AM EST
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