I hope that accumulating evidence can produce agreement on at least "questions of fact", but even this seems unlikely. Hannah K. O'Luthon
Not necessarily. It could very well be likely that a Muslim fanatic designed those bombs and tricked those people into setting them off...
The issue of what happened however is extremely critical. If the four men were suicide bombers, the police need to investigate who inspired them or encouraged them to do such an extreme act. And what did they hope to accomplish by killing themselves?
But if they were duped, it's even more perilous. If an Al-Qaeda or other fanatic Muslim group set these men up, it means that many other integrated and non-fanatical Muslims might be targeted in a similar way. And this means the police would have an extremely difficult time preventing these attacks since the executors are NOT fanatics.
The most sinister implication of these men being duped into being suicide bombers is that the "controlling hand" gets away to do it again. And the "controlling hand" was the one with the agenda...
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Who among the pool of non-suicidal sympathizers is ever going to trust them again?
BTW, are you sure there is no cell phone reception in the London Underground? Our local subway is equipped with repeaters - reception is just fine. The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
I distinctly remember hearing that people couldn't use their phones underground in London and from news articles one still can't. Not until early 2006 anyway.
There have been discussions going on regarding the installation of cells to enable mobile reception - one of the arguments that has been marshalled against this is the possibility of cell-phone bomb detonation!
1)the few stations that are either open or very close to ground level. Edgware Road Circle/District/Hammersmith and City line station is one of them. Otheres where reception is possible include Earls Court, South Kensington, Barbican and Whitechapel.
2) The sections of track open to the sky where the line was not rebuilt over when it was constructed. There is a long section going east from Kings Cross on the District/Circle line where this happens but there are small sections all along the north-eastern section of the Circle.
However, these isolated areas of reception are too unpredicatable to allow for the detonation of the two on the higher level lines and the "Kings Cross" bomb was in a deep tunnel where there are no signals.
Using infidels, non-believing Muslims to carry the bombs is satisfactory. Through friendship, request some help on short notice, to move some holiday backpacks from Luton Town to different persons in London. All expenses paid, you can even spend some extra days by friends or family in the city. May grace of Allah be with you till eternity. Naive? Perhaps, that's how scams work, gain trust of individuals and use them.
The mastermind looked for a group of acquaintances, loose ties and perhaps at university level someone with knowledge of chemistry to create cover for use of TATP explosives. Leave behind some trace of acetone and peroxide in the bathtub isn't too sophisticated. These components are present in most households, not in the explosive compound, but some specimen spilled in the home is not difficult.
Even by most burglaries in The Netherlands, thieves make sure to spread some DNA material from third parties in the area to foil the investigation.
In the press conference of the London Metropolitan Police it was erroneous to put blame on Al Qaeda based on the compound TATP, as it is a household substance any terrorist could use. Besides a terrorist mastermind, a mastermind from any nationality could have used a double-cross to have patsies travel with backpacks through the London Subway, the easiest and quickest journey in the city.
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