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Hmm...are they playing the race/anti-immigrant card? Can anyone confirm?

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by whataboutbob on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 07:01:22 AM EST
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Well, from what I read, not really, they are just addressing the issue, Bolkestein and such, while the main parties happily jump to paint them as xenophobic. But they walk a thin line. (Lafontaine said that they want to draw away voters from the far-right ratcatchers by talking seriously about issues the main parties won't address and the far-right uses for demonisation.)

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by DoDo on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 07:06:05 AM EST
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I add: the CDU's categorical rejection of Turkey's EU membership, and the sinister half-said-half-thought arguments behind, is the most significant fuel on the fire of xenophobia in my eyes.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 07:08:46 AM EST
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I don't pretend to have much knowledge, in general, about German politics...or specifically, about the CDU...trying to upgrade here, but I have similar foreboding feelings about the CDU. When a party is about to take over and won't say exactly where they stand on issues, it is all too reminiscent of Bush Republican-ism, and we all see where that has gotten us.

Jerome has had a different take on the CDU, that they will be moderate but will stay "European", which has been somewhat reassuring...but I'm a bit paranoid...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 07:38:44 AM EST
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Stay "European" the Sarkozy and Bliar way, I suspect...

What the CDU already says about its standing on issues is bad enough: back to nuckear, categoric no to Turkey, business-friendly (even if not explained in detail) reform, some more police state measures.

Now I don't think they will rush off like the Bushies, I just don't see them that ideological. They seem more impressed by the methods of neocon power than neocon goals, if they go along (and how far they go along) it's more of a serving of big business than revolutionary zeal. (For example, recently they reneged previous pleas to discontinue the environmental tax, citing budget crisis as reason.) But what they'll do will be significant damage anyway, I fear.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 08:07:14 AM EST
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Lafontaine is absolutely playing for the extreme right wing vote. He is using extreme right wing vocabulary (Fremdarbeiter), saying that the Nazis weren't really hostile to foreigners, and talking about how horrible it is that the good German family fathers and mothers end up losing jobs to 'immigrants' (until a couple years ago it was extremely difficult for non-ethnic Germans to get citizenship, meaning that even if you were born in Germany to immigrant parents you still often don't have German citizenship and are technicallly considered an 'immigrant').

In his most recent book he calls immigration a plot forced on the Germans by elements of the elite. He says he wants to strip citizenship from insufficiently assimilated Turks (along with rich people who aren't paying there fair share of taxes). To highlight the danger of immigration he speaks of America where, horror of horrors, whites are in danger of losing their majority status within a couple years and even now you can see the scary sight of politicians using foreign languages to seek immigrant votes and how if Europeans aren't careful such nightmare scenarios might play out in Europe as well.

This is why one of the leading East German SPD politicians called him a 'hatemonger' (Hassprediger), Fischer refers to him as the German Haider, and a foot in the mouth type East German CDU pol talked of siccing the Office for the Protection of the Constitution on him. (Germany's sort of equivalent of MI-5 which among other things has the task of monitoring and fighting right and left wing extremists.)  That last is ridiculous, but Lafontaine is playing on the full spectrum of resentment of Germans frustrated with the economic stagnation and that includes some very ugly sentiments alongside some perfectly understandable ones.

For a German language analysis of this side of Lafontaine's political views see:
Oskar Haider

by MarekNYC on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 06:47:24 PM EST
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