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I seriously doubt that the new Left Party will fare as good as they say right now.  They have a very strong base in East Germany and they can steal voters from the SPD, the Greens and ironically from the right protest voters in the West, but 12% sounds a bit much.

A bit of background:

  • East Germany was ruled by one-party rule under the SED.  When the wall came down, the SED renamed itself into PDS and has had a strong following in the East ever since.  They regularly get between 20% to 30% in the polls and they are part of the administration (as a junior partner with the SPD) in 3 states, IIRC.  This strong support is based in their excellent local work (especially with the youth there), their focus on East German problems and their strong anti-Nazi, pro-peace stance.  They have virtually no following in the West, where they have a tainted image as old communists.

  • 2 years ago, Schröder introduced a new reform program, which has been very controvertial from the start.  Great parts of the SPD base (along with other) were dissappointed and the WASG came into being.  The name Voting Alternative for Social Justice is program, although they're strong on general ideas and weak on the details.  (This is standard practice in Germany politics, see below.)  The WASG is not actually a party. (German law has, as usual, a very strict definition of parties.)

  • To pool their recources, the PDS and WASG decided to join, although it's more or less a take-over of the WASG by the PDS.  (Which is kinda ironic when you remember that the German unification was a take-over of the East by the West, but I digress.)  People of the WASG will be up for election on PDS lists.  In turn, the PDS decided to call itself the "Left Party" to signify a fresh start and get rid of the tainted name in the West.

Where can the Left Party get votes from:
  • from PDS voters (esp. in the East): This is their base.
  • from SPD voters (East and West): Since this is where the WASG recruited its members from, this is very likely.
  • from Green voters: Maybe some, but unlikely, because in my experience the Greens also have a strong base.
  • from FDP voters (mostly market liberals): Not a chance.
  • from CDU voters: Little chance as well.
  • from right-wing protest voters: Ironically I guess that at least some protest voters will switch from voting far right to far left.

However, it should be noted that the PDS has a much stronger following in the East than the WASG has in the West.  Since the 4/5 of Germans live in the West this does not bode well for the new Left Party, because they desperately need support in the West.  For example, in the 1998 election the PDS got 21,6% in the East and 1,2% in the West which made for a total of 5,1%.  It fared worse in 1998.

Also, the fact that the PDS is part of the administration in 3 states in the East will likely be against the new Left Party, because it's performance there is not very good.

BTW, I'm a bit surprised that the new Left Party polls so good in the East.  I'd like to see that broken down by state.

(Note, that this is my personal opinion and in no way based on facts.  I'll try to remedy that.)

Anyway, as to your choice quote, about not divulging what's gonna come after the election.  That's been the strategy for years by all parties and at least compared to the 2002 election I think that those who are paying attention know what to expect much better.

by hesk on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 01:10:35 PM EST
Thanks again, hesk, for your detailed answer. Okay, what would the New Left need to do to grow in the West part of Germany? Is there an opportunity for that to happen in the short run (ie, the next election?). And why are the other parties anxious about this new party? (or are they?).

And while I'm at it, what are your views of the CDU, since you seem pretty informed and level-headed about politics there...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 01:29:48 PM EST
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IHMO, if the Left Party wants to gain a following in the West they'll basically have to do do two things: Make sure the old PDS label does not taint them, as it will definitely be used against them by the other party.  Secondly, they'll have to better get their message out.  They are at a disadvantage compared to the other parties, precisely because the WASG is not actually are party - that means no local infrastructure and no money from the tax-payers although the PDS will likely take care of that.

The other parties are anxious about the Left Party for two reasons I guess:

  • CDU and FDP: They don't have to fear that potential voters will switch as they are at the opposite end of the spectrum (excluding the far right).  However, if the Left Party passes the 5% hurdle and makes it into the Bundestag it is more likely that CDU and FDP won't have the numbers to form a coalition.  In this case, the CDU and SPD would form what is usually called a Great Coalition here and the FDP would be out.

  • SPD and Greens: The Left Party will probably gain a lot of voters from the SPD and since the Greens are dependant on the SPD they don't like that as well.

Finally, as to the CDU, they're unelectable in my book, for various reasons.  Far too socially conservative for my liking.  They also plan to continue giving incentives to business at the expense of social programs which hasn't worked so far.  Finally, if the 2002 election had gone differently, Germany would now be involved in the Iraq war.

However, my views on various parties are very unspecific right now, I'm basically following my gut.  By now all parties have their program finished and I'll try to make some time to take a better look.

by hesk on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 02:51:10 PM EST
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hesk, I think you forgot non-voters as a very potent source - disillusioned ex-SPD-voters. Also, I wouldn't just add up the previously measured WASG and PDS popularities. WASG also polled very low because voters couldn't be sure that they pass the 5% hurdle.

On the other hand, I agree it is too early to tell how they will poll in the actual elections about two months from now, and the underperformance of PDS governments (and Gysi's own underperformance in the capital Berlin) can be played out against them.

I don't understand your surprise at the voters in the East. In 2002, Schröder won largely by drawing away voters from the PDS (with both the peace message and the august flood showmanship), one can suspect that after Harz IV, those returned to the PDS - whatever the performance of state governments. (And given that in the last dozen or so state elections, the federal-level politics seemed to play the chief role instead of local issues, maybe the latter won't matter that much in the end.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 02:07:35 PM EST
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BTW, if you want to follow polls - here is a nice summary of all major German polls; for those not speaking German:

On the top, "Gesamt" is all (the entire country), "Ost" is East, "West" you know I guess, "Bundesländer" is (individual) member states. On the left, "Veröffentlichung" is date of release (not of polling, unfortunately), "GRÜNE" is the Greens, "Die Linke" means The Left, "Sonstige" is others. If you click on the pollsters' name, you can compare the numbers in previous polls.

Note, pollsters have party allegations too, for example, Allensbach is close to the CDU, so is Emnid to some extent, while Forsa is close to the SPD.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 02:51:54 PM EST
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I agree that you can't simply add the popularities of the WASG and the PDS, because the WASG previously polled very low.  If you look at the numbers right now, with the Left Party at 12% national and 31% in the East, they'll have to have about 8% in the West.  I find that number quite high, considering that it's as high as the Greens and the FDP are currently polling and they are quite established by now.

As to the numbers in the East, I think they are inflated because of current events (all the talk about the Left Party in the media) and because the other parties have not started their campaigns which will likely feature successful attacks against the new party.

But you're right, disillusioned SPD-voters are the target for the new Left Party, they're the reason for its existance after all.

by hesk on Wed Jul 20th, 2005 at 03:13:55 PM EST
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