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I refer back to SISMI and Gladio. I think the same nice words could be said of the majority of Italian intelligence agents, yet the really bad found each other - or some who were at top positions picked out the right ones.

The rest can hardly oppose them if they act clandestinely. I don't see how suicide missions come into the picture - the conspiracy theorists don't claim Atta & co were CIA agents.

Then again, I emphasize again, I don't believe for a moment that 9/11 specifically was an inside job. I am confronting your general argument here about intelligence.

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by DoDo on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 03:03:02 PM EST
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Supplement: upon re-reading, perhaps I should make clear,  this line of mine:

Those not dedicated to public service seem to dominate nowadays anyway, "evil, soulless tool" seems to be a perfect definition for intelligence agents participating in dirty wars to me, and history does have plenty of examples for willingly carrying out orders to massacre fellow citizens

..is three separate counter-claims, regarding three non-indentical small minority subsets of intelligence agents. The first is the largest, it includes those in the MI6 going along with sexing up dossiers in the hierarchy. The second are obviously intel foot-soldiers working mostly abroad.

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by DoDo on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 03:24:52 PM EST
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OK, at least we agree that only a tiny minority in the secret services/special forces would contemplate taking part in such domestic black ops.

My claim was just that "these agencies are largely staffed by professionals dedicated to public service," by which I meant to imply that given the massive scale of an operation such as 9/11, it would be hard to recruit enough traitors to pull it off.

About the Bologna station bombing I don't know much, so if it has been proven that SIGNI - as opposed to a few fascists in the stay-behind network GLADO - were part of this, I was unaware of that.

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by Sirocco (sirocco2005ATgmail.com) on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 03:54:15 PM EST
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