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This is a very sad set of events.  I'm afraid that I've started to think though about the old journalist's formula that the news value of one death in my street is worth ten in my city is worth 100 in my country is worth 10,000 deaths in the third world.  can't help thinking that we didn't get live updates from emergency services regarding number of casualties when US attacked Fallujah a few months back.  But they were only Iraqis dying....
by canberra boy (canberraboy1 at gmail dot com) on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 10:55:45 AM EST
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You have a point. In fact, this would be a pretty normal day in Baghdad.

Which speaks volumes of how things are there.

The world's northernmost desert wind.

by Sirocco (sirocco2005ATgmail.com) on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 11:04:58 AM EST
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Yes, exactly right.  Bed time for bonzo here in Canberra... it's 1.00 am - good night!
by canberra boy (canberraboy1 at gmail dot com) on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 11:08:51 AM EST
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canberraboy and friends

glad someone else said it.  as a UK expat and one who has spent some happy hours in London the destruction grieves me -- not only the destruction of life and limb,  but the destruction of the freedom of the city, more fodder for the lockdown state, the imminent end of the wonderful times I knew there 30 years ago.

it did occur to me as I read this thread and other news coverage... 37, 40, maybe 50 dead, 700 wounded, maybe more losses if some of the wounded don't make it... and I think about the half-million Iraqi children, and the daily death toll... 16, 20, 40 dead every day, day in, day out, and no one even counts the wounded.  and Afghanistan littered with cute yellow cluster bombs and all the rest...

and awful though this feels to me on sentimental grounds, to see a city I love being harassed and vandalised and people murdered in numbers, civic order being shattered, ordinary people being victimised at random... I had that same thought:  we've been doing exactly this to Iraq for, what, 20 years now?  random killings, pointless violence?  continuous bombing sorties, invasion, sanctions, more sorties, another invasion, towns flattened, thousands killed.  London at least still has electricity, running water, a fairly trustworthy police force, hospitals with real equipment and well-trained doctors who aren't being kidnapped and murdered daily, working sanitation, working telephones...  somehow my feelings of shock and dismay and horror and all the rest this morning only amplify and render more painful my personal sense of shame about what "we" have done to Iraq, as if a voice at my shoulder says, "If you feel this kind of distress and anger about this -- proportionately -- small incident, imagine what an Iraqi is feeling after two years of far worse."  it is like the old saying about weeping that I had no shoes, and then I saw a man with no feet... I feel no less upset about London, just more upset about everything.

and hearing Blair and Bush immediately start trying to use it to sell their pig-headed profiteering WoT plus glorify the G8 summit as an heroic endeavour of the Truly Civilised under attack by the barbarian hordes...  well it is making me feel ill.  oh gawd.  where to turn... and we are here as on a darkling plain / full of confused alarms of hurry and flight / where ignorant armies clash by night...

only grief.  for all of us.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 04:45:59 PM EST
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I am hearing Tony Blair saying
" those responsible for this have not respected for human lives..." Like he has...oh sorry you are right they are not human they are just Iraqis...
Hypocrisy your name is Tony Blair...
Seems like they had their speeches ready...I am sick of everything and am in grief for all of them who are not going to come home tonight to their grieving families...in London and in Iraq...and Afghanistan...and...
by vbo on Thu Jul 7th, 2005 at 11:17:50 AM EST
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