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Thanks for that input. Does my own bias show when I quote him favourably?!

FrenchSocialist made an apparition in yesterday's story. I hope s/he will join us here again to give another perspective on this.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 29th, 2005 at 04:53:45 PM EST
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Jerome, je ne pensais pas that you were agreeing with him! In fact I know you would disagree with his view that Thatcher-Major-Brown's economy is genuinely successful in producing economic growth, real employment, or social wellbeing.

I loved Le Monde's report yesterday.  The badinage of French politicians is a delight --  "A trop fréquenter les Corréziens, on se chiraquise" stung le depute-maire de Tulle (M Hollande) so deliciously

((the key for non-Frogs is that Chirac claims his ancestral home in the Correze, which is also the department which Hollande represents)

by Richard Drayton on Mon Aug 29th, 2005 at 05:28:46 PM EST
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I'd put myself in the Strauss-Kahn camp mostly. I also have a lot of respect for Hollande who is derided by all for being uncharismatic and a bureaucrat, but, like you point out, he did run for election in Chriac's backyard and steadily won everything that could be won. Like his companion, Ségolène Royal, he is a political fighter that you pay dearly to underestimate.

As to Blairism , I'm not sure exactly what it stands for. The UK is currently undergoing a Keynesian binge engineered by Gordon Brown, so it's not exactly as if it's only the private sector that's dynamic. As the WSJ pointed out not long ago, the UK created mostly public sector jobs when compared to France...

And I am curious to see how long the British tolerance for foreign ownership of assets and industries will last when the country becomes a serious importer of oil and gas.

I had sympathy for Blair, but he lost it when he never actually took any risk to fight for Europe as he said all along he would, and then when he compiunded that by choosing Bush over Europe on Iraq. Maybe that's what the country wants, but that's not showing leadership, then.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 29th, 2005 at 05:45:06 PM EST
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The worst thing is that it was not originally clear that "that was what the country wanted" either over Europe or Iraq. It's true that once the decisions were made he gathered in supporters (who I would argue have changed their minds since on Iraq in many cases) but there were moments where the electorate was genuinely 50/50 on Europe and arguably 60/40 against the US line on Iraq before he made his decision, but he didn't have enough courage to do the right thing.

Why? Some surmise Carlyle was dangled in front of him on Iraq, but on both Iraq and Europe I see the influence of Rupert Murdoch, whose opinions seem to have directed Blair's policies in these cases pretty closely.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Aug 29th, 2005 at 06:17:40 PM EST
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On Europe, I certainly believe that he feared Murdoch, and waited too long for the "perfect" opportunity to campaign, which never came and which he never created.

On Iraq, I initially thought he was courageous (to fight for some principles, and to try to have a positive influence on Bushco, against his public opinion), but with all the information that has come out it just appears that he sold his soul to the devil and was bitten in return - and he knew it. It just felt safer to be irrelevant on the side of Americans than irrelevant amongst those strange creatures across the Channel... (of course, if Chirac and Blair had found the courage to speak to each other instead of past each other, they would have found they DID have some influence jointly. And that lesson does not seem to have been leanrt yet, even if on Iran they did a lot better)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 29th, 2005 at 06:26:32 PM EST
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