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I think they're banned in Germany.(Tried to download a Verfassungsschutz document which a google of Hizb al Tahrir + Verbot turned up but the huge pdf doc crashed Adobe) France expels radical imams. In general much of Europe has laws against hate speech, you don't need to actually advocate violence to be engaged in criminal speech. So the only real issue here is whether or not the people in question are likely to be tortured when they get sent home. But that is a practical problem of the implementation of the law, not something which would make the law illegal per se.  
by MarekNYC on Fri Aug 5th, 2005 at 06:14:01 PM EST
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 in 2003as a 'Islamist organization with a clear anti-Jewish ideology' (islamistische Vereinigung mit deutlich anti-jüdischem Gedankengut). According to the same source it calls for fighting the 'Jewish infidels'
http://www.stura.uni-leipzig.de/~farao/gruppen/hizbtahrir.htm

In general equating ultra radical organizations like this one with mainstream US fundy Christian ones like Focus on the Family seems deeply misguided to me. The American mainstream fundies bear a lot more resemblance to moderate Islamists like Qardawi or Sistani than they do to the friendly totalitarians of Hizb al Tahrir.  By that I mean that they believe in democracy but one where the 'true' religion plays a major role, particularly in legal norms regarding personal life and morality. Something rather different from the outright rejection of Democracy as an inherently evil ideology because it gives sovreignty to the people rather than to god, or rather his representatives on earth.

by MarekNYC on Fri Aug 5th, 2005 at 06:30:23 PM EST
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FOTF plays a lot more lip service to democracy even as their proposals would end it or weaken it. Hizb-al-Tahrir, on the other hand, makes no secret of its detestation of Democracy and its misguided desire to replace it with an Islamic fundamentalist state.

Iraq War news and comment.
by Eternal Hope on Sat Aug 6th, 2005 at 02:02:51 AM EST
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