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Also, only 10% of the Germans want a SPD/Green/LP coalition.  Top choice is a grand coalition with 39%.  This link has a pretty graph.  The poll question reads "Which coalition would be best for Germany?"

Regarding the debate, 70% think that Schröder will win and 80% say it will have no effect on their voting decision.  No wonder that Merkel doesn't look forward to it.

The huppla about the debate was that Merkel only wants one debate, while last year we had two debates.  Last year was also the first time ever for a TV debate, so everybody assumed that there would be two debates this year as well, one for the public TV channels and one for the private ones.  When Merkel was asked why she only agreed to one debate, she cited "scheduling difficulties." Riiight.  Last week wasn't really kind to her.

On the flipside, it looks likely that we'll have a debate between the three smaller parties which is new and promises to be much more exciting.

by hesk on Sun Aug 7th, 2005 at 07:52:25 PM EST
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Just what I weeped about in the other  thread...

Translating the graph in hesk's link:

Which coalition would be best for Germany?

  • Grand Coalition (= Social Democrats + Christian Socialist Union (Bavaria) + Christian Democrat Union (outside Bavaria)): 39% (+9% on previous week)
  • CDU + CSU + FDP ((neo)liberals) 29% (-5%)
  • SPD + Greens 14% (-2%)
  • SPD + Greens + Left Party 10% (+1%)

Within the SPD, the preferences are:
  • Grand Coalition 47%
  • SPD + Greens 36%

That so many SPD voters think that replacing the Greens with Merkel, Koch & co would be the solution is the sad thing. Does this signal residual longing for a party-less system of national unity? Or just a longing for political stability, regardless of what that stable government will do?

Within the CDU and CSU:

  • CDU + CSU + FDP 65%
  • Grand Coalition 32% (+15%)

Within the FDP:
* CDU + CSU + FDP 77%

Within the Greens:

  • SPD + Greens 35%
  • Grand Coalition 40%

Now this is even stranger. The way I can make sense of it, dissatisfaction with the SPD runs so high that going into opposition and returning after the failure of the next government is preferred by two fifths.

Within the Left Party:

  • SPD + Greens + Left Party 48%
  • sum for other combinations offered (see above): 40%

Now this is the strangest. I'd expected "none of the above" at 40%. Maybe some hope of a positive effect of the Left Party by forcing the government to take heed of some issues. Or - maybe, this 40% are protest voters who were thinking of SPD/Grüne without Schröder?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Aug 8th, 2005 at 08:51:39 AM EST
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Regarding the preference of a grand coalition in the SPD, my guess is, that they know that if Red-Green wins the Bundestag again, the Bundesrat, with its CDU majority, would continue to block their agenda, and nothing will have changed.  A grand coalition would neutralize the Bundesrat.

Also, I fear, that the SPD doesn't really appreciate the Greens, although it was the strong showing of the Greens in 2002, that enabled them to continue the coalition then.

Same with the Greens, but your interpretation sounds plausible, too.

The problem is inherent in the poll.  First, the question can be interpreted in two ways:

  • Best, to actually get things done.  (This would imply neutralizing the block the Bundesrat has.)
  • Best, to steer Germany in the right direction.

Second, as always with polls, the numbers do not reflect the reasoning, how the people come to their answer, which is most likely not uniform at all.
by hesk on Mon Aug 8th, 2005 at 02:20:47 PM EST
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This could come from the fact that these numbers are shaped by the exepctations on each side.

SPD voters favor a grand colaition because they see this, rightly or wrongly, as the only way to stay in pwoer.

CDU voters would see it as a failure in the election.

Same thing for the small parties, who don't want to be left out (although some there probably take the strategic view that a grand coalition can only favor those outside, i.e. them, at the next election)


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Aug 9th, 2005 at 06:25:15 AM EST
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hesk: Regarding the debate, 70% think that Schröder will win and 80% say it will have no effect on their voting decision.  No wonder that Merkel doesn't look forward to it.

Always the pessimist, I'd also contemplate the Bush script: create expectations that Merkel will be disastrous in the debate, and if she barely hangs on, she has outdone expectations - and up go the sympathy points.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Aug 8th, 2005 at 08:54:36 AM EST
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