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The good people over at the Spiegel are now reporting that Forsa has the SPD ahead of the Union, 223 seats to 220. Yesssssssss! :-):-):-)

If you can't convince them, confuse them. (Harry S. Truman)
by brainwave on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 03:37:41 PM EST
Don't get exited too soon... The Greens don't know if they see red or black, ohmigosh. What a mess.
by mimi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 03:41:28 PM EST
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A "Jamaica" coaltion and a "traffic lights" coalition are equally unlikely. The FDP would look marginally more favorable upon the former, while still rejecting it, and the Greens would look marginally more favorable upon the latter, while still rejecting it. Basically neither of these two alliances works for the two "old" small parties.

If you can't convince them, confuse them. (Harry S. Truman)
by brainwave on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 03:59:42 PM EST
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If this happens, what does Schroeder do? I think it would paralyze him politically to include the Linke in his coalition, but I wonder how many Linke seats are held by former Lafontaine's SPD folks as opposed to ex-PDSers? Could the former join Schroeder's coalition, or at least "tolerate," to give him a working majority?

Conversely, what could the CDU offer the Greens that would make a "Jamaica coalition" feasible?

by desmoulins (gsb6@lycos.com) on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 03:42:53 PM EST
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Before the election I tried to google the "Linkspartei" in the different states.

According to those articles former PDS members occupied three of the first four places on the Bavarian "Linkspartei" election list?

If that is true in conservative Bavaria, then I suspect that most seats will be held by former PDS members and NOT former SPD members.

by Detlef (Detlef1961_at_yahoo_dot_de) on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 04:11:30 PM EST
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Neither Red - Green nor Black - Yellow got a majority.

That is awful!

Simply put, it means that we Germans will either face weeks of negotiations to "organize" a simple government compromising on the lowest level of common ground (either a "grand coalition" or some three party coalition) or face the prospect of another round of federal elections.

Forgive me but I don´t think that´s a good result for Germany.

by Detlef (Detlef1961_at_yahoo_dot_de) on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 03:54:16 PM EST
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