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SPD-chairman Franz Müntefering:

"Schröder will remain chancellor!"

Meaning: SPD will try to arrange for a traffic lights coalition.

That is also what my source from within the SPD (he is currently at a party with science and education minister Edelgard Bulmahn) tells me.

by Saturday (geckes(at)gmx.net) on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:34:08 PM EST
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Müntefering:

"There will be no cooperation with the Left Party."

by Saturday (geckes(at)gmx.net) on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:35:59 PM EST
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They should ask Wowereit about how likely that project would be to succeed...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:36:07 PM EST
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Traffic Lights? Which one is that?
by mimi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:39:04 PM EST
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SPD (red), FDP (yellow) and Greens.
by Saturday (geckes(at)gmx.net) on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:41:59 PM EST
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Thanks, figured it by now. I hope they build this coalition.
by mimi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:49:06 PM EST
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yikes!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:52:31 PM EST
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SPD = red
FDP = yellow
Green = you get the idea :-)

If you can't convince them, confuse them. (Harry S. Truman)
by brainwave on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:42:24 PM EST
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Say some more about FDP...why would they interested in a left coalition?

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:43:40 PM EST
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They wouldn't. They have a lot more to loose than to gain from such a deal. I think the reason Muentefering (the SPD Chairman) is floating this option right now is to prop up the mood of the faithful until we see more tangible results.

If you can't convince them, confuse them. (Harry S. Truman)
by brainwave on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:47:25 PM EST
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Yes, agreed, it is not a very likely proposition, but then...
by PeWi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:50:21 PM EST
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Well, they USED to be in coalition with the SPD on Federal level, before they changed over to the CDU in 1982 (Genscher and Lambsdorf fabrication)

but there were some social liberals (Darendorf), not just the national, economic liberals leading the party now.

They had at one time, some decent politicians, Leutheuser-Schnarrenberg f.e,

but most left, are silenced, or changed to the SPD, Verheugen f.e European Vice President used to be a FDP or F.D.P. member

by PeWi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:49:09 PM EST
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yeah, yeah, just didn't know FDP are yellow...:-)

I associate yellow meanwhile with yellow elephants and needed to ajust my wiring.

by mimi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:50:52 PM EST
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yello, green, red

aeh

red, yello , green

SPD, Liberals - FDP, Greens

by PeWi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:44:00 PM EST
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Why would the FDP do that? Why support a highly instable government that's assured to have the wheels coming off at the first turn, knowing they're only going to get punished for it afterwards? The FDP would enter a traffic lights coalition only if their survival were at stake. Sadly, there's no evidence that it is (obviously I'm not exactly a fan of that lot)...

If you can't convince them, confuse them. (Harry S. Truman)
by brainwave on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:40:54 PM EST
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Well, who thinks the FDP they are. As far as I am concerned they are nothing and they have only a life in a coalition with another party. They are dead if the go into coalition with the CDU. It's so tremendously boring. If the FDP goes into coalition with CDU, they can just become CDU themselves. Gosh, it's awful, I am not interested in German policies anymore other than that I don't trust the CDU/CSU to be honest brokers for the people's good. Merkel is another case. I think she isn't that conservative in her heart, she might just be a lose canon in foreign policies and may be also too unexperienced.
by mimi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 12:57:23 PM EST
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