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It seems to me to be more along the lines of "social liberal" party that is actually a fairly pro-market party, centrist economically, leftist in terms of social politics, with a strong emphasis on environmental issues.

That's how I see it, except that I'd say center left rather than center on economic issues with the exception of anything related to the environment. There are also significant internal divisions within the Greens but the right wing of the party is currently on top. Furthermore Joschka Fischer, the de facto Green leader is about as Antlanticist as you get in the continental West European left these days.  Incidentally they're my favorite German party and as you know I'm not a big fan of the far left.

by MarekNYC on Tue Sep 20th, 2005 at 12:15:53 AM EST
It seems Fischer isn't going to fight and retreating, which I am very disappointed about. As soon as it's getting too hot in the kitchen, he rather retires from the Green Party leadership position than fighting for its position. He is not at all willing to cooperate with the CDU and there seems to be quite a split going on within the Greens apparently.

Too bad. Though I think a Jamaica Coalition would be in fact a betrayal for any Green Party voter.

by mimi on Tue Sep 20th, 2005 at 05:24:23 PM EST
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no, i think it is more of a tactical retreat. he is not gone out of politics, keeps his mandate, and would also be available for a ministerial position.
The only positions he would not be in any longer is heading the fraction in the Bundestag.

It has been said in the past, that he has lost his spark and fighting spirit. It is good to quit, when you are on top. And he certainly is.

I applaud him.

and if he becomes a minister again, so much the better.

by PeWi on Tue Sep 20th, 2005 at 07:55:54 PM EST
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ok, I see. Wished I could watch German TV.
by mimi on Tue Sep 20th, 2005 at 09:17:40 PM EST
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I think Fisher's statement that the Greens will not be in the next government are a sensible reaction to becoming the 5th party in the Bundestag.

There could still be a minority CDU/CSU + FDP government if the greens abstained in the investiture vote.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 21st, 2005 at 05:41:41 AM EST
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