This whole thing brings me back to the point I made before about Republicans capitalizing on this problem.  I think there are real problems that the American poor and working classes are facing, but it's extremely difficult to discuss these problems with people on the left because of depredations that have been done by the right under the rhetoric of low taxes.  Any discussion about the tax burden on the poor triggers defensiveness (I'm not directing this at you, Maven, you're comment just brought it to mind).


Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes