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by PeWi on Fri Sep 9th, 2005 at 10:59:59 AM EST
Sorry for being so negative, but I do think it is about a feeling of selfworth and usefullness. Which is most easly achieved by feeling a productive member of society - which means, being in employment.

Both selfworth and usefullness, where enourmously undermined after the wall fell and the hordes from the West, Besserwessied the East. I experienced this it myself. Even though I was from the West, but I moved to East Germany / Leipzig in 1991 and people did treat me differently when they realised I was from the West. Which sometimes took them a while. But for the colonial Wessis I encountered, I only have contempt and I was one of them.

It is the small things that give one the realisation of selfworth and very often it is still being connected to your work place and as you all know - everybody in the GDR had the security of life-time employment. The responsibility was with the state and the state took good care of you - for the cost of your liberties. But now, since the liberties are achieved, the responsibilities rest with the individuals, social structures don't work the same way and different working styles were seem to be needed to be learned. But the way it was being enforced, was out of the control of the individual. The carpet they stood on was pulled under their feet - laying on the floor there were being lied to by the politicans.

"I can see blossoming landscapes" Helmut Kohl promised this but he made damn sure, that it was on West German terms.

I still have difficulties to understand why my friends vote for the PDS, but in the end, I would have to vote for them as well, if I trusted Wahl-o-mat
I just cannot. I have seen their politicians promise as much as the CDU, but the Realos in the Greens are still my choice.

by PeWi on Fri Sep 9th, 2005 at 11:16:01 AM EST
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wahl-o-mat really is a nice tool. And it keeps telling me, too, that I'm a supporter of PDS.
by Saturday (geckes(at)gmx.net) on Fri Sep 9th, 2005 at 12:14:25 PM EST
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Much worse.  It's not just going from full employment to 18% unemployment. In actual fact total employment has utterly collapsed, the unemployment numbers hide that since they reflect a far smaller workforce. E. Germany has lost massive numbers of working age people to migration, it has also seen large scale early retirement. IIRC the reduction of total employment is on the order of fifty percent but I'd have to check that.

In general the critique should include the disastrous decision to convert the E. German mark on a 1-1 basis and to raise wages to an almost W. German level.  If you take an already struggling enterprise and choose to massively hike its costs overnight, it will die. That's what happened on a large scale in E. Germany. Not that it would have been easy to do anything else - people might have voted with their feet, but still that's a major reason why in many ways the E. German economy has done so much worse than those of the new member states.

by MarekNYC on Fri Sep 9th, 2005 at 03:52:21 PM EST
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A lot of continental Europe's economic difficulties can be linked to the fateful decision by Kohl to fold the ostmark into the DM at 1:1. It turned the full population of East Germany into Western consumers overnight, but it destroyed, no, it annihilated the whole industry of East Germany at the same time, and the country and its neighbors have been paying this decision ever since:

  • the money spent by the East generated inflation, thus causing the Bundesbank to raise interest rates. France, the Netherlands and others had to follow at the worst time for them, thus triggering the 1993 recession, the nasties in a long time;

  • the loss of employment in East Germany was massive, thus leading to the feelings of inadequacy and resentment described by PeWi above, and forcing the West to provide massive financial social transfers - and these continue to this day. Thus the East became a drain economically speaking, and never recovered enough

  • that effort drained Germany's economy, dragging its neighbors down with it (not as much, but some)

The Bundesbank compounded that by refusing to let the DM slowly devaluate prior to the entry in the euro, which would have been the best thing for all. So Germany had to additionally sweat the overvaluation through the stangnation of wages - and thus of consumption, compounding the problem.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 9th, 2005 at 04:25:10 PM EST
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