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Well, I understand where they can come from. The haughty (or simply, as Alex puts it below, indifferent/harried) service you can get as a Parisian in places you go for the first time can be a but offputting and, if you are so inclined, be attributed to anti-Americanism or to rudeness, and easily become 'typically French' if it happens more than once.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 12:42:29 PM EST
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And it becomes "typically American" when you see American tourists acting obnoxious.  The idea of the "obnoxious American" is so ingrained in your city that people actually refused to accept that I was American! (also because I apparently did not "look like an American," which is a little odd, seeing as almost every ethnicity under the sun is represented in this country).  It was flattering in a way, but illustrated a certain narrowmindedness on the part of the Parisians as well.  Which is, interestingly, the rap that Americans usually get.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 05:41:53 PM EST
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Oh, and you suggest that even Parisians are treated "rudely" at brasseries, unless they are regulars.  But I wasn't a regular and I really wasn't treated rudely.  (They were probably grummbling about me behind my back or something...)  

What's your theory?  Mine?  It also helps if you are a charming, attractive foreign young woman attempting to use what few French speaking skills she has ...

See, I really am an obnoxious American!

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sat Jan 14th, 2006 at 06:05:24 PM EST
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Not rudely, but at least indifferently , or 'surlyly' - and it certainly helps if you are a young attractive female indeed.

Americans get noticed because they speak loudly (so do Italians), and are seen as obnoxious because too many of them don't make the effort to speak any word of French and just expect everybody to reply in English. Anybody that makes the effort to say 'excoosay moi' first will get at least decent treatment.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 03:55:11 AM EST
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I have found that if I start looking at the menu and say "Je voudrai une ...(pause)", within a few seconds the garçon will say, "Waddya want?" in a New York accent and accept whatever future attempts I make with good humor.
by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 06:30:24 AM EST
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The trick is to show willing but make at attempt so bad that they stop you from butchering the language. In fact, I think being embarrassed you don't speak the language is generally sufficient.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 11:54:37 AM EST
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