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what does "the Pan-European ideal" mean to you exactly? I meant it in a non-nationalist context, and that includes being able to talk in a language where we understand...and unless we hire translators...we will need one language (in my opinion).

Bob, this is really a very European issue, one that has been debated heavily ever since the formation of (the first precursor) of the EU, and even before - I think Migeru's comments reflect that more than opinions he formed all alone. (At least their understanding by me seems to imply so.) The problem is, no single lingua franca will be agreed upon. And not even if no nationalisms are included - have you heard of Esperanto? That was an attempt at a universal language, it is easy to learn, a lot of people speak it (especially in Europe), but it just didn't catch on.

It may be the case that elites (politicians, stars, media, managers) could and have settled for English as lingua franca in practice, but elites are by definition exclusive. But a lot of even those Europeans who do speak foreign languages do not speak English. So the EU has translators for all languages and floor discussions in multiple languages, nd the broader population does the same - Europe itself is a 'mosaic community'. For example, in CEE or on the Balkans, you have more chance being understood in German than in English, and a lot of Hungarians or Serbians will attempt communication in that language even if say in Spain or the Netherlands. (All my older relatives are like that.)

And here, while English is convenient for you and for all current ET readers, it is not for a great many people who could be included, and connected by English-and-other multilinguals.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jan 24th, 2006 at 10:59:41 AM EST
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After reading wchurchill above, I realise that what I wrote can be read as arrogant lecturing of a new immigrant.

But, after thinking some about it, I must admit it is lecturing... tough, meant in a friendly way. It wasn't meant to make you feel an outsider again, rather, inormation to enable you to feel more of an insider!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jan 24th, 2006 at 11:10:59 AM EST
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It wasn't a bad lecture at all, really, I learned a lot right here about history, perspectives and language use. You can't feel like an "insider" if you don't have a full perspective of what "European" culture (in all of its variety) is, so you're giving me hints and advice...cool!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Wed Jan 25th, 2006 at 02:21:39 PM EST
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