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afew, you are right...I need to just stop and cool down myself...let it lay. And no new diary, this is plenty for now (thanks for your gentle but firm nudge).

Peace!!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Wed Jan 25th, 2006 at 07:38:35 AM EST
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Bob, thanks for this diary -- in all our previous talk about this topic, I don't recall anyone saying an other-language diary might produce feelings of exclusion, and I must admit I went ahead without that particular lamp being lit up in my mind (or I would have taken more care about how I proceeded). So it's a good thing you said what you said and exposed your feelings honestly. Maybe we needed the experimental diary to find out.

If we do another such diary (and that depends on the will of people to do it), I think we should previously agree on some procedural questions. As you say above, you feel clearer now about the possibility of butting in -- that should be made very clear. English is the lingua franca. The idea of a summary of the diary in English also seems good and should become mandatory.

In this, I'm accepting (let it be said in passing) that I myself will be "excluded" by some diaries. I very much doubt I'm capable (though I'm willing to sweat over it) of reading a diary in German and following the comments, for example. I'll just have to duck out, as I already do for some diaries that are too technical for me.

And, in the end, who knows? Maybe we will collectively gravitate towards the decision that such diaries are not useful...

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jan 25th, 2006 at 07:58:52 AM EST
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English may be the Lingua Franca, but Franca sounds awfully close to Français, and since afew already showed us that there were more words of French origin in English than words of Germanic origin, I think we need a tie-breaker.

Some rugby matches coming up in a few weeks could do the job. ET could take, each year, the language of the winner of the 6 nations tournament, only if that winner is France. All in agreement raise your eyebrows. Ok, done.

by Alex in Toulouse on Wed Jan 25th, 2006 at 09:18:46 AM EST
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Wikipedia: Lingua Franca
The origin of the term lingua franca is Latin (literally "Frankish language"), derived from the medieval Arab and Muslim use of the ethnonym "Franks" as a generic term for Europeans during the period of the Crusades.

Originally "lingua franca" referred to a mix of mostly Italian with a broad vocabulary drawn from Turkish, Persian, French, Greek and Arabic. This mixed language (pidgin, creole language) was used for communication throughout the medieval and early modern Middle East as a diplomatic language;

I had no idea of any of this...

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jan 25th, 2006 at 09:22:47 AM EST
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