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Can I just nitpick a bit? The first graph is entitled, in French :

"Probabilité de ne pas être cadre ou profession intermédiaire pour les diplômés du supérieur."

To me, that's not very clear. "Probability of not being a manager or professional person for university graduates." Are we talking about the chances that a graduate, upon graduation, has of becoming a manager/professional? Or, as you translate it, Jérôme, those graduates who do not currently hold a position of these two types?

The subject of the second graph : here I really think your translation is misleading. "Part des combinaisons études-emploi (stages, cursus en alternances)" refers specifically to vocational training schemes ie organized courses where on-the-job training is included. That is not "young people who both study and work" -- that gives the impression we are talking (as in previous discussion threads) about the extent to which students also have a job to pay their way through their studies.

Since you have the context these graphs were presented in, you could no doubt clear these points up? (when you have time..;))

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jan 27th, 2006 at 03:56:41 AM EST
Lemme nitpick too: "15 à 24" is identical with under-25, it is not not under-24.

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by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 05:49:35 AM EST
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Which makes me wonder why there is so much difference in the unemployment rate of Spain, Italy & France in the map versus the graph. Are these two different times period? If so it still seems like a big difference.

Oh I just realised this from way back last Thursday. Oh well another interesting diary I missed.

by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 01:24:12 PM EST
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I suspect partly because in the map, it is unemployment of youth active in the workforce, in the table, it's unemployment among the total youth.

Since the table also gives the ratio of those active in the workforce, I put the numbers of the table in a spreadsheet - out came:

Danemark    9.0    (map: 4.6)
Roy.-Uni    13.7    (map: 9.3)
Allemagne    13.1   
Espagne    28.1    (map: 22.2)
France    26.6    (map: 17.4)
Italie    30.8    (map: 26.3)
Pologne    65.4   

The remaining difference is either due to data for differing years (no date given for the maps) - or (more likely given that the difference is strongest for high-childbearing-rate Denmark, then France) the inclusion of under-15 for the map.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 01:42:06 PM EST
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Good point. I seem to have the bad habit lately of not looking at the fine print before putting my foot in my mouth about some of these numbers. AHHHH!
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sat Jan 28th, 2006 at 02:17:35 PM EST
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