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Nobody holds a gun to your head | 14 comments (14 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Nobody holds a gun to your head (4.00 / 2)

We discussed this on the train to Nottingham last weekend, and Helen mentioned one little detail which seems important and is missing here, and that is the claim that administering female hormones as a diagnostic tool is safe because female hormones have no harmful side effects on men for months.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 26th, 2006 at 10:18:06 AM EST

Re: Nobody holds a gun to your head (4.00 / 2)

It's more than a claim, tis a fact. I was told that I could take oestrogen for several months at very high doses (105 mg/day) before there was any chance of interfering with fertility.

Even after two years of them in the run-up to the op my surgeon mentioned that it still wan't too late to "recover" full virility if I so desired.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 26th, 2006 at 10:24:07 AM EST
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Re: Nobody holds a gun to your head (4.00 / 2)

OMG. I have to say, that is a lot of estrogen. I'm not questioning the science; I'm sure you know more about it than I do, but I take .035 mg/day and that seems strong to me. That's just wild.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Thu Oct 26th, 2006 at 12:30:05 PM EST
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Re: Nobody holds a gun to your head (4.00 / 2)

I wrote that at work without recourse to the packet to check the amount. sorry, it's 105 micrograms ie .105 milligrams.

Still a huge dose. Comparison : teenage girls at maximum have a daily dose of about .085 milligram. And they cycle as low as .015. I'm at a steady .105 all the time; high on oestrogen.

But after 35 years as a guy, I deserve it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 26th, 2006 at 06:44:13 PM EST
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Re: Nobody holds a gun to your head (none / 0)

Whew! That makes MUCH more sense!

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Thu Oct 26th, 2006 at 06:45:41 PM EST
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Re: Nobody holds a gun to your head (none / 0)

Hee, I'm happy to give 105 milligrams a go, just to see. If I feel like this on my current dose, just imagine a 1000 times overdose. Sigh - yea it'd probably kill me stone dead or destroy my liver for a slow death, but we can only imagine.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 26th, 2006 at 06:52:07 PM EST
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Re: Nobody holds a gun to your head (none / 0)

I thought it would be interesting to check normal testosterone levels for men.

It turns out they're measured in units of nanograms per decilitre of blood, which is a bit lateral, unit-wise.

Pausing to grab a calculator suggests that a normal level is around 25ug total, assuming 5L of blood.

These are incredibly powerful chemicals, aren't they?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 27th, 2006 at 07:55:32 PM EST
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