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The Council of the European Union, in its Justice and Home Affairs configuration, is meeting today and tomorrow and will discuss the US' demands on Airlines to provide at least 34 items of passenger information. See the Draft Agenda [PDF], in particular
Second Report from the Commission to the Council on visa waiver reciprocity with certain third countries
Presentation and first exchange of views

El Pais: All the date that airlines flying to the US transmit without your agreement (05-10-2006)

The European Council on Justice and Home Affairs must make a pronouncement tomorrow on whether to give its assent to the agreement being negotiaated with the US on the transfer of data about passengers arriving to that country. Meanwhile, the US authorities have at their disposal every day a detail picture of the thousands of travellers landing on the North American country.
Did I get this right? Are the airlines already giving those data to the US government? El Pais has the list of the  34 data required, including
Name, Address, Billing Address, Contact Phone Numbers, Complete Itinerary, Frequent Flier Information (miles and destinations), Travel Agent (company and person), Information on Joint Reservations with other passengers, e-mail address, Baggage label numbers, information on reservation changes, information on passenger requests, history of changes to passenger record, all the information in the "Advance Passenger Information System", information on internet fares.
WTF?

My personal opinion used to be that the Visa Waiver Program should be discontinued, but seeing the list of items requested (full frequent flier history? e-mail address? Billing address?) the only solution is to not fly to the US.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 07:59:11 AM EST
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Did I get this right? Are the airlines already giving those data to the US government?

Yep.

My personal opinion used to be that the Visa Waiver Program should be discontinued, but seeing the list of items requested (full frequent flier history? e-mail address? Billing address?) the only solution is to not fly to the US.

Yep.

Of course, this assumes that the US doesn't already have some or all of that information, or couldn't easily get it if it wanted it.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 08:06:51 AM EST
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The list they could do is force the airlines to ask people to agree to a waiver in respect on these 34 items of data.

"Your payment has been pre-approved, and your reservation is almost complete. Please check each of the following 34 items to indicate your agreement to have these data passed on to the US government. Your reservation cannot be completed without this agreement. Your payment will then be charged to your account."

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 08:13:54 AM EST
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When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 08:24:59 AM EST
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That was exactly my suggestion in the previous Breakfast when we discussed this: force airlines to disclose to each passenger what they disclose to the US government.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 08:54:38 AM EST
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Not only that, force the customer to go through the entire list and check it off. Some people will rather hit the "cancel reservation" button.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 08:56:27 AM EST
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Hm, that's actually not the proper agenda item. I suppose this stuff is being discussed off the agenda, then?

European Commission: The European Commission adopts its second Report on visa waiver non-reciprocity with third countries (04/10/2006)

The European Commission adopted its Second Report on cases where visa waiver non-reciprocity is maintained with certain third countries. This shows progress: visa reciprocity has now been achieved with a certain number of countries. On the contrary, for the United States the opening of a dialogue is encouraging but there is no tangible progress for the moment towards visa exemption

...

This being said, it is clear that the situation as regards the United States of America is not improving and our American counterpart does not seem willing to engage in a result-oriented dialogue at short notice.

This is about the US not extending the visa waiver to the new member states, not about the Airline data issue. Unless the press release chose to ignore that, or course.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 10:34:33 AM EST
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GovExec.com [via Google News]: Senators urge Chertoff to strengthen visa waiver program (September 19, 2006)
Senate Judiciary Homeland Security Subcommittee Chairman Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and ranking member Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., sent Chertoff a letter asking him to strengthen the visa waiver program by implementing recommendations from a Government Accountability Office report earlier this month.

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Kyl said the government needs more information faster on travelers boarding planes so border officials can make informed decisions on whether they should be cleared. "Congress may need to alter the requirements of the program to ensure that visa waiver countries are giving DHS the data it needs to make those decisions," he said.

GAO found several weaknesses with the program. The department has not established adequate operating procedures for countries to report stolen or lost travel documents to the program and the International Criminal Police Organization (Interpol); and has not given U.S. border inspectors automatic access to Interpol's databases at primary inspection points, GAO said.

Geez, give the Department of Homeland Security a booth at the departure airport, or else pull out of the Visa Waiver Program.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 10:50:52 AM EST
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Jurist: US, EU continue passenger data-sharing negotiations (October 04, 2006)
US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff [official profile] reportedly reassured EU Justice and Security Commissioner Franco Frattini [official profile] via telephone Tuesday that the US will continue to abide by the now-lapsed 2004 agreement [European Commission press release] until the two sides reach a new compromise.
Interesting, the US must have really thought the EU would ground all US-bound planes, or something.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 5th, 2006 at 11:02:07 AM EST
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