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Bonus picture: this would really connect to something in the next diary,  but is in this diary's timeframe. On this image, Hungarian citizens carry off a Russian soldier wounded in the October fightinga.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Nov 2nd, 2006 at 03:14:21 PM EST
Another photo extra, from the Hungarian Telegraph Iroda (MTI)'s photo archive. It wouldn't be appropiate to diary this without the picture of the removal of a red star, but I just couldn't find a photo on-line until now. This one was on a firewall next to the place of a torn-down building bombed out during WWII (a common feature in cities across Europe for decades):



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 at 04:24:25 AM EST
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The same firewall is visible on the right of this few years old photo (of Kálvin tér = Calvin Square), now carrying ugly commercial giant posters:

I knew this place well, both my favourite library and my former workplace were just a block away (and my university three blocks away). Now the firewall disappeared behind an ugly office tower. The builders of the latter were speculants (there was no real demand for office space), who also bought the -- protected -- building behind it (the one with the famed firewall), and 'let' construction work damage it fatally, so that it could be torn down and also replaced by new construction. But there was such outrage that they had to at least reconstruct the old façade. That and various construction deficencies put them in bankrupcy, new owners couldn't do anything with the new building, so it stands empty for years now...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 at 04:46:54 AM EST
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but I have to ask: Why does a nice fallen-away Catholic/recovering Communist country like Hungary have a "Calvin Square"?  
by Matt in NYC on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 12:31:37 PM EST
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Hungary's theists are majority-catholic, but not catholic-only :-)

When Protestantism spread, it found fertile ground in different parts of what was left of the Kingdom of Hungary (this was after the Ottoman invasion). Chiefly in Transsylvania, which already had a history of widespread hereticism (bogumils, arianism), and then had many Calvinists, and then was actually the source of Unitarianism. there were more Lutherans in the Austrian-held Northern part (today Slovakia), but the Habsburg rulers' (often bloody) recatholisation efforts decreased Protestant numbers.

In today's Hungary, according to the last (2001) census, 55% called themselves Catholic, 15% Calvinist, 3% Lutheran (note though that for many this is only cultural identifier -- you had Catholic baptism, Catholic family --, not actual belief). Hungary's second-largest city Debrecen (incidentally, also Fidesz's strongest base), near the Romanian border, is their main centre.

I note one of my grandfathers was a Calvinist (who married a Catholic).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 02:11:55 PM EST
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As to why the square is called so: because of a relatively old (pre-flood-of-1838) church, which is just behind the photographer of the previous picture.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 02:27:22 PM EST
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