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Syria was fairly willing to let foreign jihadists make their way into Iraq the last few years.

Methinks that's 99% US propaganda, and rather lousy for that. If the US failed to control borders with all their night-vision, satellite and aerial equipment, how come the Syrians were supposed to do better.

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by DoDo on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 03:35:22 AM EST
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Plus the only border guards anyone reports seeing on the border are Syrian. Hey maybe the Iraqis or our US forces may want to do something about securing a border instead of making ludicrous claims that the Syrian leadership would actively encourage Sunni extremists. However, there is a lot of ignorance in the West where people may not understand that the last thing the Syrain leadership would do would be to encourage these people anywhere neat their country. Unfortunately the US regime relies on the this ignorance so it can plant ridiculous ideas in people's minds.
Oh and lets remember how effective the US are at policing their own border with Mexico.
by observer393 on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 05:08:00 AM EST
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You are correct that the Asad regime has no love for Sunni extremists.  The fact that the Asads are Alawis (a Shi'a tradition) and have worked to crush the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood is testament to that.

My point is not that the Syrian regime has been an active supporter and director of Sunni extremists moving into Iraq and Lebanon.  To encourage them is to let them put roots down in your own country and they definitely don't want that.  One need only look at Pakistan to see how well that works.

As for border control, comparisons to the U.S. are meaningless.  It isn't that the Syrians should be able to control the border (they can't).  However, an autocratic regime built on the support of a strong and often brutal internal security apparatus SHOULD know generally what kinds of people are passing in and out of the country.  If you can't manage that, then you aren't likely to stay in power long (especially when you are an ethnic minority in a majority Sunni country).  So what I am suggesting is that the Syrian government (at some level) was very likely aware of Sunni radicals moving into Lebanon.

The point being that Syria has an interest in seeing the current government in Lebanon fall.  If they can find an agent willing to help that process along, why wouldn't they exploit it.  It lets them deny they were involved and it allows Nasrallah to take power with clean hands.
 

by Hoya90 (hoya90jmk-at-yahoo-dot-com) on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 07:15:52 AM EST
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So what I am suggesting is that the Syrian government (at some level) was very likely aware of Sunni radicals moving into Lebanon.

Well, and Saddam was aware that Zarqawi was in the country. Only, the US propagandists forgot to mention that he actually wanted Z to be killed, but couldn't get him. Even secret services of police states don't know everything. Another thing is that while US propaganda focused on foreign insurgents and among them on those coming from Syria, in truth more came via Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Same 'failure' there.

It lets them deny they were involved and it allows Nasrallah to take power with clean hands.

The useful idiot version has more clout, but I don't see al-Qaida types willing to be agents for Baath. If Syria used pawns, then more obscure ones. BTW I don't think they would want Nasrallah. Nasrallah is too independent, and even the ties he has are more to Iran than Syria. They would want Berri. (There is a long history of Syrian intrigues to get Hezbollah to accept a minority role in a Shi'a coalition with Amal.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 01:14:28 PM EST
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Well, most propaganda has a grain of truth to make it work.

In general, I believe that Syria was aware of the kinds of people passing through their territory (the regime couldn't survive if it wasn't able to manage that).  That isn't the same as saying that they can shut off the tap or that they are directing the operations.

by Hoya90 (hoya90jmk-at-yahoo-dot-com) on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 07:17:41 AM EST
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Well, most propaganda has a grain of truth to make it work.

Iraqi WMD.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 01:03:19 PM EST
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