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They basically want to get out of NATO
by Freud (freud@freudie.org) on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 04:25:57 PM EST
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So, conservative in a Gaullist sense of the word?

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant
by redstar on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 04:27:04 PM EST
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No, conservative in the same way pro-labour union democrats are conservative.

Gaullism is right-wing nationalism.

by Trond Ove on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 05:34:59 PM EST
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Confused here.

Pro-labor union Democrats have often been very pro-military, pro-interventionist, were supportive of the war in Vietnam, bled support to the GOP in the Reagan years.

Basically right-nationalist, though this is changing. Is this what we're talking about with the SP?

I always thought of DeGaulle's attitude viz. Nato as the original "third way," between "east" and "west" bloc. Not easily pigeon-holed, in terms of FP, as right-wing, at least relative to the FP pursued in Washington.

 

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 06:43:47 PM EST
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Well, I basically meant conservative in the original sense of the word, and within a certain political culture.
by Trond Ove on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 07:50:29 PM EST
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To be even clearer, the socialist party in Norway, SV, was founded in the 1950's based on their opposition to Norwegian membership in NATO. In the last few years, they voted for the NATO war against Serbia. But there are still members of the party critical of both this and NATO membership.

In other words they are Socialist party conservatives. I do not know if this roughly compares to the dutch example here, but I assume so.

by Trond Ove on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 07:57:01 PM EST
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It definitely sounds like the same...
by Nomad on Thu Nov 23rd, 2006 at 09:46:56 AM EST
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But they're very hostile on legislation coming out of Brussels, think the Dutch financial contribution still hasn't been decreased enough and are suspicious to the opening labour market with the enlargement of Bulgaria and Rumania. Would the descriptor protectionist be justified in this case?
by Nomad on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 04:29:22 PM EST
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