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Oh get over yourself.

Nothing like being called a racist without justification.

Please, detail what I have said which is racist. I have said the following in their regard:

  1. Irish-Americans, like white Americans in general, are conservative. They don't have any special claim to righteousness, as some have claimed. Note this came up originally when Colman was observing the irony of all those conservative Irish-Americans giving money to Noraid and the nominally Marxist IRA.

  2. That Irish-Americans and other Notre-Dame Fighting Irish fans tended to be Reagan Democrats

  3. It is impossible to be a Reagan Democrat and be progressive; these two points of view are incompatible.

Somehow, you and certain others seem to get defensive. But you can't contest the points on the merits, can you?

Cut the racist name-calling crap, it's beneath you. I assume.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 11:33:12 AM EST
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Cut the racist name-calling crap, it's beneath you. I assume.

But apparently not beneath you.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 11:40:25 AM EST
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Please, everybody on the thread, take a breath, stand back, and calm down.

I certainly won't go into choosing sides in any way, but I'll note that you are now officially talking past each other, and trollrating the person you're talking to is unlikely to be conducive to constructive dialogue.

Please? A gesture of peace?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 12:00:58 PM EST
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I tried to undo that troll thing, thinking better of it, but I guess you can't undo a rating?

I take objection to being called a bigot, of course, but you are correct, continuing the shitstorm doesn't serve a purpose.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 12:11:26 PM EST
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You'll have to change it to a 4 for penance. I don't know why that happens...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 12:12:05 PM EST
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Ooh, that hurts.

Ah very well...

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 12:19:24 PM EST
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For some reason you can't go from 1->none.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 12:24:12 PM EST
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Hmmm...

  1. If you said "The majority of Irish-Americans...", that would not sound like racist over-generalisation.
  2. It doesn't follow. Correlation in patterns doesn't translate to majority matching between two sub-groups (it could even be that one trend is a counter-culture to the other); and I would like to see graphic evidence of your claim to see just how strong that correlation is.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 12:54:45 PM EST
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