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Independent: Lord Ramsbotham exclusive: Justice system is absurd. Broken. Chaotic

The former prison chief lambasts a justice system in meltdown after Tony Blair's decade of failure on crime and punishment

 Yesterday's announcement that the prison population now exceeds 80,000 is the latest low point in what one can only describe as the Government's headlong and self-induced race to absurdity as far as the conduct of imprisonment is concerned.

The reasons for this dreadful figure are not hard to find. If you produce legislation that results in longer prison sentences, more people will be in prison. If you do not resource prisons, to enable them to conduct work, education and training, prisoners are more likely to reoffend, as proved by the fact that the reoffending rate among adult males has gone up from 55 per cent to 67 per cent in the past five years. If you continue to have a dysfunctionally organised prison service, you will continue to have dysfunctional organisation of an overstretched system. And so on.

Many people have been warning the Government about this for years but, instead of listening to those with practical experience, it has preferred to take advice from people who know nothing about running large organisations, let alone an operational service. When, as now, the whole is run by a home secretary who, within weeks of taking office, publicly described the Home Office and the overburdened immigration service as not being fit for purpose, and recently disparaged the probation service to prisoners in Wormwood Scrubs, you do not exactly have a recipe for getting out of what is an increasingly dire situation. Leaders undermine the morale of their own troops at their peril. If, at the same time, you continue to bombard them with a continuous torrent of flawed legislation, much of which replaces previous legislation before the ink on it is dry, you create a mess that can only be cleared up by long-term planning, based on discussion with those who understand not only what needs to be done but how it might be done. That requires ditching current plans that are marching the whole system into even greater chaos.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 30th, 2006 at 12:45:13 AM EST
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We have the exact same problem in France. After years of tough talk, tougher laws, and dismantlement of all the soft mechanisms that allowed to deal with crime (prevention, parole, etc...), of course the situation is worse.

Brute force sovles very few problems. But it's the only thing that is talked about.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Nov 30th, 2006 at 04:02:42 AM EST
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I read somewhere that the Blair government, in less than 10 years, has passed more penal laws than had been enacted in the previous century.

It is the same pattern of change for the sake of change and legislate new laws instead of operating the existing ones effectively, that makes the Blair regime so ineffective administratively.

by Gary J on Thu Nov 30th, 2006 at 06:46:15 AM EST
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That's because there's also this idiocy of evaluating the value of legislators' work by the number of laws enacted. "Is this what we pay MPs for?" kind of crap.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 30th, 2006 at 07:10:14 AM EST
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Unfortunately it's not ineffective. It's been very effective - at breaking things and wasting time on trivial plays for the Daily Mail crowd.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Nov 30th, 2006 at 07:34:38 AM EST
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And do not forget that if you have enough laws, everybody is guilty.

Which can be an end in itself.

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Nov 30th, 2006 at 07:40:28 AM EST
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That is why I wrote ineffective administratively. It is (at least for a time)  effective politically, but it is not good government.
by Gary J on Fri Dec 1st, 2006 at 03:46:35 AM EST
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Shami Chakrabarti : Director of Liberty comments:-

"Before you decide whether the system is fit for purpose you have to decide what that purpose is.

In this country there is too much pressure on the criminal justice system because it is supposed to solve society's ills. But it is not the answer to everything; it can't be used to cope with the mentally ill, the homeless and problem teenagers. That's not what it is designed for; it can never be fit for that purpose. Politicians have created a panic about crime so the public now fear there won't be enough space in prison for all the people who are guilty of offences. They have trapped themselves in a debate where they tell the public there is nothing wrong with the system, then enact more criminal laws to change it."

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2026804.ece

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 30th, 2006 at 09:10:01 AM EST
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