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Urban rail terminology is confusing, because there are not only multiple names for the same thing, but there is no clear boundary between the different categories... Nowadays, the blanket term for tram/streetcar/trolley [on rails]/Stadtbahn/interurban is "light rail".

SF has both a heavy rail (BART) and a light rail (Muni Metro) mass transit system, both of which happen to be a mix of suburban commuter railway, subway and downtown tramway in line character, like the German Stadtbahn. You must surely mean the light-rail one, Muni Metro, which BTW runs trams made by Italian company Ansaldo Breda.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 07:11:00 AM EST
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There are also British/American English differences here.  My American Heritage dictionary (from 2000) says that "tram" is "chiefly British" for streetcar. I also remember growing up hearing my grandmother talking about how much she missed the "trolleys" (never "tram" or "streetcar") we had until the 1950s in my home town. (Today some of them have been converted into bike and hiking paths; since they don't follow streets, I can see why it would have been strange to call them "streetcars.") These days the only time most Americans see "lightrail" is at airports, and "tram" seems to have won out over the other terms, at least at these venues.
by Matt in NYC on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 09:05:29 AM EST
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The use of "trolley" for rail vehicles is very strange to my ears, as it is used for electric road vehicles here.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 09:40:39 AM EST
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What some Americans would call "trolley buses" -- if they have any word at all for these strange contraptions. I notice that American writers (of guidebooks and the like) have a hard time describing these, even when they find them in familiar places like Boston. But "trolley bus" makes sense to me: in America these were mostly transition vehicles from old trolley/tram rail lines to regular gas-powered buses.
by Matt in NYC on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 10:04:33 AM EST
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Here, a few years ago, someone in the Budapest major's office had the 'great' idea to replace trolley buses with gasoline buses, but it was called off amid protests from all quarters. A one or two years later, the major showed that he 'learnt from it' when new trolley buses were ordered.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 10:12:08 AM EST
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I do indeed mean the muni metro. My confusion is just proof we need more transit! :)

Rachael

by R343L (reverse qw/ten.cinos@l343r/) on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:54:27 AM EST
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