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Ever since the kiwi issue got flagged at the start of this year, I now feel guilty when I pick up a kiwi, being uncertain whether it's produced sustainably.

Conscious man, conscious!

by Nomad on Tue Dec 19th, 2006 at 06:15:47 AM EST
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What does sustainably mean? Sensu strictu, any use of fossil fuels is not sustainable, but using no fossil fuels is an absurd requirement.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 19th, 2006 at 06:25:55 AM EST
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In that definition, only a speck of total production is produced sustainably nowadays...

In the kiwi-case, I was thinking of an alternative kiwi produced somewhere closer to the Netherlands than NZ (which is probably Everywhere Else). That would make the description perhaps: less un-sustainable.

by Nomad on Tue Dec 19th, 2006 at 06:34:57 AM EST
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More sustainable, less unsustainable, more acidic, less basic, more europhilic, less eurosceptic...

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 19th, 2006 at 06:36:13 AM EST
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But less un-sustainable does not equate to more sustainable!
by Nomad on Tue Dec 19th, 2006 at 07:28:06 AM EST
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saving fossil oil products for rarer uses, like lubrication, and using more renewables for transport, heating etc.

it's about having a sense of proportion, isn't it?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Dec 19th, 2006 at 07:35:18 AM EST
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