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...Amongst other things, the phone conversation wiretap transcripts state that at a certain point Perry told Scaramella "You must deal with/handle ("occuparti della" = lit. "occupy yourself" with)the  Italian politics".  

The Perry guy also refers repeatedly to "our organisation" ...as though Scaramella is part of it - or rather, its Italian branch.

And I imagine this Perry guy is the same "silent" American who sat in on Scaramella's previous hours-long sessions with Litvinenko preparing all that pseudo-Mitrokhin bs?  

Query: So who the heck IS this Perry guy anyway - and what the heck is he supposed to be doing messing around with a) Italian domestic politics b) Livtinenko's Russian/Chechen intrigues?  

Is he US-official or US-unofficial? If the first, doing what?  if the second, first question is "whose" is he? Acting on whose orders...  and of course, doing what exactly - in our presumably sovereign and democratic nation??

Grrrr ...Dejà vu dejà vu. Last fifty+ years of nastiest, bloodiest and shadowiest zones of Italian political history are all creepycrawling with these "American connections".  So here they are again!!! and not exactly non-coincidentally, may I note that while the USA is at least supposedly cutting down its troops n' hardware presence in the rest of Europe, it's actually INCREASING its military presence here (Vicenza)!!...So seems Italy's still viewed as the US's "natural harbour-cum-aircraft carrier " to dominate the Med.... and evermore shall remain so...???

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P.S. If no-one else has time/energy to translate the Repubblica articles either in full or as excerpts I'm strongly tempted to do a diary with nice fat translation excerpts, concentrating on this aspect...as soon as I have the time! Maybe late tomorrow - that is, unless anyone else here is working on it?

Could call it "Scaramella's American connnection" - THAT would get the Kossacks jumping, eh? ;-)

"Ignoring moralities is always undesirable, but doing so systematically is really worrisome." Mohammed Khatami

by eternalcityblues (parvati_roma aaaat libero.it) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 06:10:35 PM EST
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If you can, please do!

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 06:23:01 PM EST
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The problem is time. I would very much like to translate and have often done so, but it is a lengthy process even though I can be very fast at it.

There are however several interviews in this case worth translating: The Litvinenko interview and the two Limarev interviews- especially the first one (off line.)

I have done excerpts of the the second Limarev interview- and Migeru did too.

One possibility I would suggest is to set up pro tempore crews and divide the job. I would also suggest cross-checking. I'll even try to figure out how Migeru uses that two-column trick.

The Perry Cordova tapes are very interesting and should be urgent. I'm certain Repubblica and others are trying to track down Perry and his organization. I can't help remembering Phil Guarino, Reagan's defrocked priest turned California Mason who ran shot-gun in the White House over the Italian department of dirty tricks in the Eighties. This could be something similar.

As for Cordova he is a long time controversial figure, murky at times who needs to be explained.

If you do the Perry-Cordova tapes that's great. I'll add in a Cordova bio. I could do the off-line Limarev interview and finish the second current interview.

Since the late Seventies the US has shifted its long-term military strategy to the Southern flank of Europe. Italy- and especially Sicily- are now the major "aircraft carriers." Sicily represents fabulous gains for mafia-linked infrastructures and their political representatives. It's no wonder so much intrigue leads back to Sicily, whether Sindona, Comiso, the P2, Billygate.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 01:44:19 AM EST
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Actually the most important translation today would be the Repubblica interview with Gordievskij.

Gordievskij makes it perfectly clear that both Scaramella and Litvinenko tried to force him into backing false charges against Prodi. Gordievskij was so outraged that he complained to the MI6. But what further enraged Gordievskij is when he found out that Guzzanti and Scaramella had discovered that he had informed MI6. It was Bukovskij who told him that. Bukovskij, too, had been subject to pressure by Scaramella to back false charges against Prodi.

Gordievskij is very much irate and considers both Scaramella and Guzzanti to be clinical cases- something that has been asserted here since day one.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 01:54:38 AM EST
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Also today brief interviews with Andreotti and Cordova. The Sismi contradicts Berlusconi by affirming that they had told him about the complaint of MI6 against Scaramella.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 02:04:20 AM EST
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I condensed your earlier and latest reports into a post at dKos.

Migeru doesn't like asking for Recommends, but I ask for it to get the stories noticed by them Orange Americans.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 05:30:13 AM EST
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I recommended it, it's a great summary.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 06:05:30 AM EST
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We could do this off-line in a series of writeboards. Upload the Italian text, and people can insert an English translation after each paragraph (that way, the finished text can be copy-pasted into a diary, and only the TABLE, TR and TD tags need to be added since the paragraphs will be already in the right order for a bilingual diary.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 06:35:51 AM EST
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The two-column trick is now in the New User Guide.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 02:03:14 AM EST
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I'll even try to figure out how Migeru uses that two-column trick.
The simplest way is a simple HTML table, with two columns per row. It's good to put each paragraph and its translation in a separate row of the table, to account for the fact that different languages tend to have different lengths of text for the same information (English being quite efficient and Spanish or Italian quite long).

"Best current practice" uses three colums (an empty middle column), and is in the New User Guide, though I slightly modify Afew's formatting (I don't use the "width" attribute in the TD tags). You can see how I did it by looking at the source of my comment. [Under Firefox, CTRL-Left_click will select a part of the page, then Right_click will give you a pull-down menu with the option view selection source).

The gnomes could modify the site CSS so that one could use <td class="some_name_or_other"> for the two colours, and <table class=bilingual> for the general table formatting.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 04:16:40 AM EST
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I can't help remembering Phil Guarino, Reagan's defrocked priest turned California Mason who ran shot-gun in the White House over the Italian department of dirty tricks in the Eighties.

LOL

The fun never ends!

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 01:42:37 PM EST
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