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Every community has a creation myth.

Spain's used to be the Reconquista, which is a particularly mythical and ahistorical rendering of 8 centuries of history. I wonder whether that stays current or has been superseded by mythical views of the Transition.

Western civilisation has a creation myth involving a continuous succession of civilisations and empires all the way back to the first cities in Mesopotamia.

It is possible, though, that Europe (as in, the EU) doesn't have a creation myth yet, because it is also not a community yet.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 08:02:19 PM EST
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Maybe it varies from country to country? Here I'd say the ideal image of the United-Europe thingy is ... a phoenix of peace-and-prosperity-in-unity flying up from the ashy corpse-strewn rubble of two unspeakably devastating world wars due to European rivalries - NEVER AGAIN!! ??

"Ignoring moralities is always undesirable, but doing so systematically is really worrisome." Mohammed Khatami
by eternalcityblues (parvati_roma aaaat libero.it) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 11:39:01 PM EST
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In my mind, the text running beneath the bombs, rubble, corpses, craters and ashes then final miraculous-phoenix-rising-up imagery is Auden's "1st September 1939" ...

And its punch-line - despite Auden's second thoughts - is and remains:

"We must love one another or die".  

So that - i.e. having understood that, AWOKEN to that - is our "European uniqueness"??... and what's more, it's  our ... universal message = mission?

To testify that we've been there, done that, the whole imperial caper, rival empires caper, colonisations caper, whiteman's-burden caper, wars-of-conquest caper, nationalisms/religious rivalries caper, bombs and corpses caper, bigger-and-better-armaments caper - been there not once but countless times, done 'em and played 'em all every whichaway - so time and time again we've stared into the abyss and the abyss has stared back into us.. until at last, at long-long last, we-the-stained-survivors somehow stepped back from the brink, shook our heads and swore "Never Again".  

(...cymbals, trumpets, rays of dazzling light ...)

At which point we-the-awakened can all/should all now stretch out our hands to those still unawakened, to try to pull them back out of the abyss of ignorance i.e. mutual devastation and destruction cycles to the newfound solid ground - and only hope of ultimate planetary survival - that acceptance of our salvation-through-reconciliation message can ensure?

If so - if this really is what's behind at least PART of Europe's self-image - this "European Gnosis" myth is totally discordant with the American narrative not only in PNAC version but in its "normal" versions - also re the way of reading WW2, war in general... which could explain some of the nerviness, the feeling of non-communication that sometimes sets in... as we're talking totally at cross-purposes - from different mythological foundations, different cosmologies ??


"Ignoring moralities is always undesirable, but doing so systematically is really worrisome." Mohammed Khatami

by eternalcityblues (parvati_roma aaaat libero.it) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 12:31:47 AM EST
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Brilliant.

It is important to make the difference between a creation-historical myth being basically structural myth and other narratives or "common places" which could be very much believed or recognized by the society.

THe reconquista, we as a christian nation, is a strucutral myth in Spain...the transition is still a narrative.. but a strong one.

Brilliant comment Migeru.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 11:00:56 AM EST
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As far as myth what impact does Zapatero have on the myth of Espana, una, grande, y libre when he confronts the historical legacy of the Civil War as Gonzalez never dared?

In time must the Transition and the subesequent adoption of European identity supplant the earlier myth?

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 02:12:41 PM EST
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I think the "two Spains" are quite alive, and that they have different myths about the Transition. Zapatero will have no effect in the part of Spain that still holds on to the Una, Grande, Libre myth, if anything he's forcing those still in the PSOE out of it.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Dec 13th, 2006 at 06:15:46 PM EST
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