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Oh goodie, she's a Democrat.

Sounds like she's going to be a foreign policy nightmare then, if only to avoid looking "weak".

Oh well, better than the alternative I guess.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 08:08:21 AM EST
That's exactly what she sounds like.

Progressive on social issues but a "muscular" foreign policy.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 08:22:16 AM EST
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The Democrats are progressive on social issues?

Ok, true, some of them are on many, but not all, and not most.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant

by redstar on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 08:27:56 AM EST
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Sounds like she's going to be a foreign policy nightmare then, if only to avoid looking "weak".

I don't see it that way. She has killed the "weak" meme from the start, without really fleshing any policies where it matters. The Iran stunt costs little to anybody in terms of actual diplomacy, but is very hard to criticize. And then she can support help to Palestinians and other sensible positions without being accused.

I see her as capturing the symbolism of toughness, without the actual policies, while Sarkozy has done the opposite and is now appearing as a quasi-fascist prick (which is deserved, of course).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 08:24:02 AM EST
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But the weak meme will always reassert itself: she's a she and a leftie, so she's going to be fighting it all the time. Either she means the Iran stunt or she's spinning for the campaign, and she'll spin for the next one when/if she's in office.

You're beginning to sound rather like the hopeful Democrats in the US: "she's just saying that to get elected, she'll be fine when she's in office". It seldom seems to wash out that way.

I hope you're right.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 09:00:30 AM EST
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Well, Sarkozy is really destabilised right now, and Le Pen lurks not far below the surface.

If she is a Democrats, she's at least a gutsy, successful one, so far. And her actual policies, while in power (in the government or in her region), are genuinely to the left.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 09:03:11 AM EST
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I think she means the Iran stunt, but we could imagine that she means it like this:

"I am against Iran pursuing civil nuclear energy ..."

Ok so far this is what she's said ... now let's add the following:

"... on its own, but am in favour of French companies being called to build and manage the reactors".

by glomp on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 03:24:51 PM EST
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You are seeing this too much in a domestic context. I think Ségo just diminished willingness to listen to French and European positions in the Middle East significantly.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 10:43:18 AM EST
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Why?

France has always had a pretty tough line on Iran anyway.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 10:53:12 AM EST
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Because of the Hizbullah incident, or her Iranian line, or both?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 12:35:44 PM EST
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Both, but primarily the second.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Dec 6th, 2006 at 05:02:37 PM EST
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